Global Entry - processing timelines of first time applications [US citizens & LPR's]
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#1233
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 5
Has anyone gotten CA in the 1 - 4 month time frame? It seems it takes a week or 5 months. There must be two different tracks for approval - the fast track and the slow boat to China. I don't buy the "depends on the desk it goes to" explanation. The discrepancies are too big.
#1234
Join Date: Nov 2019
Programs: Global Entry
Posts: 3
My wife applied 6/28/19 and got CA today 11/5/19, 131 days. However I applied earlier on 6/2/19 and it's been 157 days and still pending CA. The system is certainly not first come first serve. I've traveled 4 business trips out of US since I applied and my wife only had one trip outside US, so the system certainly is not based on the user travel frequency. Guess nothing I can do but keep waiting.
#1235
Join Date: Nov 2009
Programs: DL PM 1MM
Posts: 2,972
Has anyone gotten CA in the 1 - 4 month time frame? It seems it takes a week or 5 months. There must be two different tracks for approval - the fast track and the slow boat to China. I don't buy the "depends on the desk it goes to" explanation. The discrepancies are too big.
#1237
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 8
Based on FT posts, my and many other's conclusion is: it is simply random chance. About 2/3 of applications are put into the fast track category, and about 1/3 of applications are in the slow track. It is what it is - there appears to be no logic or pattern to discern. Just be patient.
My wife got conditionally approved within a week, so after waiting 100 days for mine, I went to the Global Entry center on Pennsylvania Ave in DC to see what was happening. The officer there told me an initial scan is done to determine whether you could be someone with a criminal record. People who share some combinations of characteristics as a "bad guy" (name, DOB, whatever) are put on the slow track while CPB makes sure they are a good guy. This makes sense in my wife's case because no one else in the world has her name and she was approved quickly, whereas my name is fairly common and I'm still waiting.
Now there could be a random element to this as well. In fact, if I were running the program I would randomly put people I thought were clean on the slow track to make sure my initial screening process was working. But I don't think it is only about randomness.
Anyway, I'm still waiting at day 125.
#1238
Join Date: May 2009
Location: MEM
Posts: 572
Son works for an airline..
I don't believe this is correct.
My wife got conditionally approved within a week, so after waiting 100 days for mine, I went to the Global Entry center on Pennsylvania Ave in DC to see what was happening. The officer there told me an initial scan is done to determine whether you could be someone with a criminal record. People who share some combinations of characteristics as a "bad guy" (name, DOB, whatever) are put on the slow track while CPB makes sure they are a good guy. This makes sense in my wife's case because no one else in the world has her name and she was approved quickly, whereas my name is fairly common and I'm still waiting.
Now there could be a random element to this as well. In fact, if I were running the program I would randomly put people I thought were clean on the slow track to make sure my initial screening process was working. But I don't think it is only about randomness.
Anyway, I'm still waiting at day 125.
My wife got conditionally approved within a week, so after waiting 100 days for mine, I went to the Global Entry center on Pennsylvania Ave in DC to see what was happening. The officer there told me an initial scan is done to determine whether you could be someone with a criminal record. People who share some combinations of characteristics as a "bad guy" (name, DOB, whatever) are put on the slow track while CPB makes sure they are a good guy. This makes sense in my wife's case because no one else in the world has her name and she was approved quickly, whereas my name is fairly common and I'm still waiting.
Now there could be a random element to this as well. In fact, if I were running the program I would randomly put people I thought were clean on the slow track to make sure my initial screening process was working. But I don't think it is only about randomness.
Anyway, I'm still waiting at day 125.
#1239
Join Date: Nov 2009
Programs: DL PM 1MM
Posts: 2,972
Based on FT posts, my and many other's conclusion is: it is simply random chance. About 2/3 of applications are put into the fast track category, and about 1/3 of applications are in the slow track. It is what it is - there appears to be no logic or pattern to discern. Just be patient.
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#1241
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 275
yes, those are probably the numbers, but it seems it is not random.
it is my understanding;
some applications trigger "flags" -- for any number of different reasons
a "flag" results in further "manual" inspection, name check, background check etc and hence months delay.
those approved in a few days, raised no flags, so effectively "automatic" approval.
fwiw, used to be for the LPR/green card process, it was the FBI that carried out the "name check"
hope that helps
it is my understanding;
some applications trigger "flags" -- for any number of different reasons
a "flag" results in further "manual" inspection, name check, background check etc and hence months delay.
those approved in a few days, raised no flags, so effectively "automatic" approval.
fwiw, used to be for the LPR/green card process, it was the FBI that carried out the "name check"
hope that helps
I went back to find the source for the fractions I provided. Please see the following FT post (which quotes a Washington Post article with an official CBP spokesman's statement).
Global Entry Renewal
This is post number 1514 in the referenced thread - in case the automatic link does not work on your web browser.
Global Entry Renewal
This is post number 1514 in the referenced thread - in case the automatic link does not work on your web browser.
#1242
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 8
I was not questioning the fractions. I was questioning that it is random as to whether you are processed quickly or slowly. Sorry if that was not clear.
Last edited by adudeinthesky; Nov 8, 19 at 7:56 am
#1243
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 8
Son is a mechanic/engineer for an airline. He has access to every part of an airplane. If you can't trust him, who can you trust???? He applied first week of July. Still waiting. There is no rhyme or reason for this nonsense. IF there is an "initial scan", surely, he would be put on a fast track vs the slow track. My 2 cents.
If you start poking around the CBP website, you will see that many of the links that used to inform the public are now broken. That these simple things have been allowed to remain broken gives you an idea of how problematic that agency is right now.
Last edited by adudeinthesky; Nov 8, 19 at 8:06 am
#1244
Join Date: Nov 2009
Programs: DL PM 1MM
Posts: 2,972
My conclusion: Very simply, it is random.