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travelfool Jun 4, 2006 9:06 am

Another LCA Trip Report
 
Just thought I'd share my experience. The airline rundown was right on. All my experiences they never boarded business class first. I flew business all the way and applied everything to Delta Skymiles. Everything has applied thus far at 150%. Everything was flawless until the last segment from MXP-YYZ. Airplane was delayed 1hr at the gate and landed one hour late. YYZ is ridiculous and I had 1.5 hours until my next flight from YYZ to the states. When I actually got to the ticket counter to check into my intl flight to the US I had 45 minutes. Check-in ? No problem....

Just to state the obvious: in order to save money, use public transit. In my experience it was faster, easier, and cost a ton less than taxi.

Hotel wise I stayed at Antonis G Apartments in LCA . It costs 10 pounds to get there and Antonis charges 15 pounds a night to stay in a "suite." 10 pounds to get back = 35 pounds = ~$80? Something like that. It's a very cheap hotel 2 stars I think) but I was only in LCA for about 12 hours so what the heck. It was OK for me and my wife.

Rome: I stayed at Hotel Rafaello. Took the express train from FCO - downtown rome. Cost = 9.5 euros per person. 30 minute train ride and the hotel was about 10 minute walk from the train station. The hotel was so-so (3 star) but the location was awesome. 10 minutes from the Coliseum and a number of other sites. If you want to go to the catacombs you just take a bus which costs 1 euro (even tho i never saw a local actually pay....).

Milan: This was the best hotel, even though this was also a 12 hour stopover. 4 star hotel called Starhotels Anderson. It reminds me of W hotels. I paid $110 per night and whatever room we got, the room rate indicated it actually cost about 530 euros a night. Wonderful bed, full bathroom with tub and TV in bathroom... it was very nice.
Take the Malpensa Shuttle Bus from MXP, which costs 5 euros a person, to Stazione Centrale. It's about a 35-40 min bus ride and the hotel is literally across the street.

yow newbie Jun 6, 2006 8:19 am

accomodation question
 
If you were staying longer in Cyrpus would you have been content to stay at the Antonis G?

travelfool Jun 6, 2006 11:05 pm

Antonis G
 

Originally Posted by yow newbie
If you were staying longer in Cyrpus would you have been content to stay at the Antonis G?

yow newbie, personally, no. But that's just me being a spoiled baby. I'll give you a brief description though. It was 2 rooms, living area with couch, extra bed, and kitchenette. Bathroom had tub and shower. Master bedroom had one king size bed and balcony facing the side of another building. No TV.... It appeared to be clean but I wasn't 100% confident. Note that Cyprus is facing water shortages so when you use the bathroom, ALL toilet paper goes into the trashcan. This is the standard everywhere you go. '

Location: It appeared to be in the middle of suburban Larnaka. They claimed it was a 15 minute walk to the beach but when me and the wife followed their directions it was more like 35-40 minutes.... but when I brought this to their attention they said we went the wrong way? :confused: We did make it to the beach which is wonderful and enjoyed a nice dinner at a french restaurant of all places.

If you're staying in Cyprus for a while, I would suggest getting something near the beach. Personally I wouldn't want to pay more than $100 a night considering there are numerous cheap places to stay like Antonis G.

gleff Jun 7, 2006 4:36 am


Originally Posted by travelfool
All my experiences they never boarded business class first.

Assume you're just referring to CY and not AZ?


I flew business all the way and applied everything to Delta Skymiles. Everything has applied thus far at 150%.
Including your Cyprus Airways segments?

Thanks!

yow newbie Jun 7, 2006 8:02 am


Originally Posted by travelfool
If you're staying in Cyprus for a while, I would suggest getting something near the beach. Personally I wouldn't want to pay more than $100 a night considering there are numerous cheap places to stay like Antonis G.


Thanks for the info! we'll be there in late August and definitely want to stay near a beach!

travelfool Jun 7, 2006 10:16 am


Originally Posted by gleff
Assume you're just referring to CY and not AZ?

Including your Cyprus Airways segments?

Thanks!

Every segment was credited at 150% that was a AZ coded flight. This included MXP-LCA AZ flight number operated by CY. Strangely, however, when we retruned LCA-FCO our boarding passes were issued as CY and it now indicated a CY flight number, so that did not credit. Just to re-iterate, everything else did credit at 150%. I think total we received something like 16 or 17 thousand miles EQM.

In my experience every flight except one did not board business class first. The one flight that did board business class (YYZ-MXP) boarded by zone (business is in zone B), but EVERYONE queued up and AZ reps didn't care. So, if that's how they're going to do it, I see no preferred boarding.

cpx Jun 7, 2006 10:31 am


Originally Posted by yow newbie
If you were staying longer in Cyrpus would you have been content to stay at the Antonis G?

if you are staying longer in CY, you dont want to stay in Larnaca.

You are better off going somewhere else.

I personally like Agia Napa (pronounced something like "Aiya Napa") and Paphos.

Other beach options would be around Limmasol.

jpdx Jun 7, 2006 10:49 am


Originally Posted by travelfool
Just to re-iterate, everything else did credit at 150%.

This is exactly my experience with DL. Anything with AZ/AM flight numbers gets credited. In contrast, the DL website specifically states "no credit" for CO/NW coded flights with different operators.

Thanks for the report!

bigbrownboy Jun 8, 2006 5:20 pm

Any signs of power ports on the AZ planes?

umguy Jun 8, 2006 7:21 pm

How long does it take to change aircraft in Milan?

travelfool Jun 8, 2006 7:38 pm

Nope
 

Originally Posted by bigbrownboy
Any signs of power ports on the AZ planes?

No power ports on any of the planes I was on. I think they were the 767-300 and the MD-80(?) I think I flew from FCO-MXP and one other one... I can't remember. They probably have them on the 777. Also, none of the flights I flew had personal TVs or functional telephones (not that you'd want to make a phone call at $10/min).

Regarding making a connection in Milan... If I recall correctly we deplaned on the tarmac and took a bus to the arrivals terminal where you go through customs (which took about 2 minutes). Actually it was interesting because business class deplaned first (probably about 10 people) and we got on the bus and the bus just took off w/o waiting for anyone else. And again I'm speaking from hazy memories, we then had to go through security again for the international flight to LCA. That wasn't a problem. Probably altogether it took about 30 minutes from deplaning to arriving at the AZ lounge prior to boarding. Keep in mind we only had carry-on, no check-in baggage. That will definitely slow your progress. Most of the time was spent walking. Also, we had literally 5 hours before our next plane so we were moving at a pretty leisurely pace. Hope this helps, let me know if you need any more info.

UCSBCHRIS2002 Jun 8, 2006 8:28 pm

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umguy Jun 8, 2006 9:02 pm


Originally Posted by travelfool
No power ports on any of the planes I was on. I think they were the 767-300 and the MD-80(?) I think I flew from FCO-MXP and one other one... I can't remember. They probably have them on the 777. Also, none of the flights I flew had personal TVs or functional telephones (not that you'd want to make a phone call at $10/min).

Regarding making a connection in Milan... If I recall correctly we deplaned on the tarmac and took a bus to the arrivals terminal where you go through customs (which took about 2 minutes). Actually it was interesting because business class deplaned first (probably about 10 people) and we got on the bus and the bus just took off w/o waiting for anyone else. And again I'm speaking from hazy memories, we then had to go through security again for the international flight to LCA. That wasn't a problem. Probably altogether it took about 30 minutes from deplaning to arriving at the AZ lounge prior to boarding. Keep in mind we only had carry-on, no check-in baggage. That will definitely slow your progress. Most of the time was spent walking. Also, we had literally 5 hours before our next plane so we were moving at a pretty leisurely pace. Hope this helps, let me know if you need any more info.

Can I make it in an hour to clear customs and whatever is needed and to the next flight with checked luggage? We are spending the day in NYC before flying onto MXP and LCA.

TravellingMan Jun 9, 2006 1:13 am


Originally Posted by umguy
Can I make it in an hour to clear customs and whatever is needed and to the next flight with checked luggage? We are spending the day in NYC before flying onto MXP and LCA.

Which airport is your question posted towards? What is your "next flight"?

umguy Jun 9, 2006 6:42 am

Sorry, MXP. We fly EWR-MXP-LCA with exactly one hour between flights.

Gargoyle Jun 9, 2006 8:28 am


Originally Posted by umguy
Sorry, MXP. We fly EWR-MXP-LCA with exactly one hour between flights.

I once made it through MXP in about 25 minutes and my luggage made the connection. I've also done it in 40 minutes a couple times. (and also done the transfer quite often without luggage)

I also had the luggage not make it once or twice, but it made the next flight 3 or 4 hours later and was delivered to me the same evening.

umguy Jun 9, 2006 9:11 am

This has me worried, becasuse it seems the flight from EWR is late 5 out of 7 times a week. At least by 20-30 min. And if we miss our flight to LCA I'm stuck spending my Bday in MXP while my friends are in Cyprus.

Gargoyle Jun 9, 2006 9:40 am

My experience with AZ TATL flights is that the pilots are typical Italian drivers- they almost always leave late and arrive early. My ORD-MXP and MXP-ORD flights are like that at least 80% of the time. Estimated flight times are padded to allow for late departures and for headwinds.

(take a taxi in Milan and you'll understand AZ pilots).

travelfool Jun 9, 2006 10:22 am


Originally Posted by Gargoyle
My experience with AZ TATL flights is that the pilots are typical Italian drivers- they almost always leave late and arrive early. My ORD-MXP and MXP-ORD flights are like that at least 80% of the time. Estimated flight times are padded to allow for late departures and for headwinds.

(take a taxi in Milan and you'll understand AZ pilots).

My experiences are similar. Almost every single flight left late... between 15-30 minutes late. However, we almost always arrived early or on time. Specifically, we left late from YYZ-MXP, MXP-LCA, LCA-FCO... and we all arrived early or on time. HOWEVER, MXP-YYZ was delayed for further "aircraft inspections" by 1 hour and we arrived 1 hour late.

1 hour between connections is pretty tight but you will most likely be OK at every airport except YYZ. YYZ is ALL busses between terminals and inter-terminal transit is very slow.

I forgot to mention, my opinion is based on carry-on only. I do not have any knowledge of wait time to re-claim luggage and whatnot before connecting.

Gargoyle Jun 9, 2006 12:42 pm


Originally Posted by travelfool
I forgot to mention, my opinion is based on carry-on only. I do not have any knowledge of wait time to re-claim luggage and whatnot before connecting.

Isn't luggage normally checked through to the final destination? (unless the pax are doing overnight layovers, in which case it won't slow them down waiting for baggage claim).

umguy Jun 9, 2006 12:52 pm

Well that was my thought, but someone said you had to clear some sort of customs. I can't see having to clear customs without your luggage. Maybe it's like the US. First point of Entry.

TravellingMan Jun 9, 2006 12:56 pm


Originally Posted by umguy
Sorry, MXP. We fly EWR-MXP-LCA with exactly one hour between flights.

Your bags should be checked in all the way through to LCA. When I arrived there was a AZ flight from BOM/DEL before me hence the transit queue backed up quite a bit (all the way to the beginning of the walkway). When you transit you have to go through security check but NO immigration check (Cyprus is non-schengen area). Dont bother looking for someone to get you a boarding pass at the transfer desks. None of them are manned. Head directly to the gate.

The other option is to exit to Milan and enter back again. But this would require you to go through two rounds of immigration, a security check and getting a boarding pass at the CY check-in. More time consuming.

TravellingMan Jun 9, 2006 1:01 pm


Originally Posted by umguy
Well that was my thought, but someone said you had to clear some sort of customs. I can't see having to clear customs without your luggage. Maybe it's like the US. First point of Entry.

You dont go through Customs if you are not exiting in MXP. If you are just connecting, your bags keep going on to its final destination even if it is within Schengen, Non-Schengen, International. You have customs when you arrive in LCA (non-existent)

umguy Jun 9, 2006 1:04 pm

Ok I got it now. I was thinking of asking Nic if he could change us to out of JFK. That EWR flight is late leaving and arriving so often.

TravellingMan Jun 9, 2006 1:08 pm


Originally Posted by umguy
Ok I got it now. I was thinking of asking Nic if he could change us to out of JFK. That EWR flight is late leaving and arriving so often.

BTW there is a lot of padding in the journey time. YYZ-MXP and MXP-YYZ both arrived 1 hour early.


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