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Sydney to Stockholm with *A during Covid-19 (NH/LH J)

Sydney to Stockholm with *A during Covid-19 (NH/LH J)

Old Jun 28, 20, 11:36 pm
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yes it is indeed a thing since years - specially US women arriving armed with pepper spray. Even in my (international) high school in Gothenburg the American girls were carrying pepper spray in their bags and got shocked when I told them they would be arrested if anyone noticed.




Originally Posted by sydunipete View Post
LH808 FRA-ARN 21:45 - 23:50 A320neo D-AINW

It was a bit of a walk to gate A26 and beyond that was fenced off.

21:15 pre-board commenced and some gate lice attempted to join them but got turned away (yay!) Then priority boarding through just one automated gate to spread everyone out. Masks were once again mandatory.

On boarding a hand wipe sachet was handed out with lots of alcohol. Very good.



I counted less than 100 people at the gate but the flight ended up quite full. Business Class was full except for the last row - and to prove some things never change two crying babies were in the J cabin. I also observed that social distancing is important except of course when you are queued up in a single aisle aircraft waiting for your seat.

Take off at 21:53 then a lightening quick drink and single tray meal service of cold meats and dessert.



The FAs kept that front curtain hard closed all the rest of the flight. I don;t even know if the toilet was open - I didn't see anyone try.

All that was left was to enjoy the late evening sunset all the way to Stockholm where we landed to yet another empty airport at 23:37.


This was SkyCity at 10am Saturday morning!


Unfortunately I wasn't allowed to bring my tear gas to Stockholm. This was near the luggage belts. Is this seriously a thing?

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Old Jun 29, 20, 4:11 am
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It's amazing that someone is already flying. Perhaps this is more convenient than usual, the more take care of yourself. Quantity may be quality. Good luck.
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Old Jun 30, 20, 11:56 am
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I wonder if you ever found out what Coughing Man’s problem was. (I do agree he should have kept his mask on).

I ask because I have a chronic cough that comes on at random times, had it for years, apparently caused by acid reflux. Many doctor consults and strong antacids and dietary modifications have not gotten it under control. While I haven’t flown since the pandemic and have nothing currently booked, eventually I will want to fly again and I’m very concerned that I may be denied boarding at some point because of coughing, or at least have concerns for other travelers.
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Old Jul 1, 20, 12:32 am
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A very interesting and insightful TR, sydunipete. Was it easy to get back to Australia?
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Old Jul 1, 20, 6:22 am
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A very interesting and insightful TR, sydunipete. Was it easy to get back to Australia?
Thanks. I'm still overseas. Many of the shops and airport facilities (particularly in Europe) expected to reopen on 1 July so I suspect my return journey will be a little more normal. I have flights booked ARN/VIE/HND/SYD.

It will be simpler to get to Australia (for me). As a citizen or PR, entering Australia is not a problem however there is an enforced 14 days quarantine at a government chosen hotel. That will drive me bonkers but the value of this has been well proven by the number of cases picked up in quarantine that haven't subsequently circulated in society.
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Old Jul 1, 20, 6:25 am
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I should say that there was an upside of wearing a mask for 35 hours. I didn't get any of the usual dryness of mouth or throat that I normally get on a long-haul flight. I'm assuming the mask kept in some humidity from the exhaled breath. However the top of my ears are red raw from the elastic strap. If you have a choice, get a mask with straps that go around the head, not just around the ears - otherwise "ear savers" would be worth their weight in gold.
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Old Jul 1, 20, 6:30 am
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Originally Posted by NotSoFrequentColorado View Post
I wonder if you ever found out what Coughing Manís problem was. (I do agree he should have kept his mask on).

I ask because I have a chronic cough that comes on at random times, had it for years, apparently caused by acid reflux. Many doctor consults and strong antacids and dietary modifications have not gotten it under control. While I havenít flown since the pandemic and have nothing currently booked, eventually I will want to fly again and Iím very concerned that I may be denied boarding at some point because of coughing, or at least have concerns for other travelers.
You raise an interesting point that I forgot to mention. I didn't notice any temperature sensors anywhere. Maybe they are better at hiding them now. But remember when travelling through the SARS period they were in many choke points scanning people's temperature. I'd be supportive of stopping anybody with a fever travelling regardless of the cause. I highly doubt you would be denied boarding as a result of a cough.

I too have a mild chronic cough. I have no idea what caused coughing man's cough - I kept as far away from him as possible. But he was sweating. As you point out - he should have been wearing his mask as it was required and announced on every flight and again when landing (in relation to the terminal). It was the height of medical insensitivity in these times, and cultural insensitivity in Asia not to do so.
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Old Jul 1, 20, 1:20 pm
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Sorry for your loss!
It must have been awful to fly 35 hours during those unprecedented times.
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Old Jul 4, 20, 12:21 am
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Originally Posted by sydunipete View Post
You raise an interesting point that I forgot to mention. I didn't notice any temperature sensors anywhere. Maybe they are better at hiding them now. But remember when travelling through the SARS period they were in many choke points scanning people's temperature. I'd be supportive of stopping anybody with a fever travelling regardless of the cause. I highly doubt you would be denied boarding as a result of a cough.

I too have a mild chronic cough. I have no idea what caused coughing man's cough - I kept as far away from him as possible. But he was sweating. As you point out - he should have been wearing his mask as it was required and announced on every flight and again when landing (in relation to the terminal). It was the height of medical insensitivity in these times, and cultural insensitivity in Asia not to do so.
If anything positive comes from this pandemic, I hope it's the normalization of staying home while sick and being smart about it if you can't. Just because you have a mild cold and it won't kill anyone doesn't mean you have to go spread it to others!
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Old Jul 4, 20, 2:20 am
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If anything positive comes from this pandemic, I hope it's the normalization of staying home while sick and being smart about it if you can't. Just because you have a mild cold and it won't kill anyone doesn't mean you have to go spread it to others!
I couldn't agree more. Something maybe mild to you, but there are others who are more vulnerable - the elderly, autoimmune issues etc. So one person's inconvenience is another person's death sentence.

There have been cases of people - including health care workers - with symptoms, or even while waiting for a covid test result, still going to work and socialising.
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Old Jul 4, 20, 8:48 am
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The provided slippers weren't of much use to me (what's Japanese for gringo?)
That would be "gaijin"
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Old Jul 8, 20, 7:54 pm
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Will you be returning to Australia anytime soon? I'd be interested to hear that trip report.
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Old Jul 9, 20, 2:18 am
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Will you be returning to Australia anytime soon? I'd be interested to hear that trip report.
No. I expect to be here for a few months however the Australian government sounds like it will soon restrict the number of incoming passengers to Australia and this may put more pressure on airlines to cancel flights. I'm hoping my return flight will still go ahead as scheduled and by way of teaser it is OS ARN-VIE and NH VIE/HND/SYD.
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Old Jul 10, 20, 11:28 pm
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Originally Posted by sydunipete View Post
No. I expect to be here for a few months however the Australian government sounds like it will soon restrict the number of incoming passengers to Australia and this may put more pressure on airlines to cancel flights. I'm hoping my return flight will still go ahead as scheduled and by way of teaser it is OS ARN-VIE and NH VIE/HND/SYD.
Also should note that you'll probably have to pay the cost of your quarantine after returning back to OZ as well: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32520900-post20.html

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Old Jul 11, 20, 1:56 am
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Originally Posted by DELee View Post
Also should note that you'll probably have to pay the cost of your quarantine after returning back to OZ as well: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32520900-post20.html

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I know. I'm holding out that Gladys has mentioned that she will charge non-NSW residents before she charges residents. Fingers crossed. I also have a view that the quarantine is for the community's benefit, not the traveller's benefit, therefor the community should pay. I also know that's not a real popular argument in Australia right now.

I also feel the government needs to come up with a more sustainable solution given the CMO said a vaccine is probably 18-24 months away. Can they really keep the country locked down for that long?
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