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hkskyline Feb 1, 2018 8:52 pm

5th Freedom Fun - Hong Kong to Osaka on Air India
 
Hong Kong - Osaka

Hong Kong has quite a lot of qwerky fifth freedom choices. Bangkok comes into mind with a whole bunch of unexpected airlines flying this route. Ethiopian and Air India also fly fifth freedom flights from Hong Kong to Korea and Japan, with Air India offering an early morning flight to Osaka several times a week, returning in the early afternoon.

After some amazing fall colours in Korea the month earlier, I wanted to give Kansai a try again to see whether they can beat Naejangsan. Since this is very weather-dependent, I could only book at the last minute once the forecast was solid. By then, Cathay or ANA were out of the question with an expensive last-minute premium. Hong Kong Express wasn't too expensive and had seats, but I was already sick of their lack of legroom and the add-ons for baggage and meals would end up being quite pricey. Air India came to the rescue, with a very affordable roundtrip for less than HKD$1750 tax inclusive. A generous luggage allowance and meals for both sectors would be included, as well as 50% accrual for mileage. This was 2 days before departure.

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Booking online directly with the airline was easy enough. The user interface wasn't as nice as some of the other legacy carriers, but it didn't take too long to get everything paid, seats selected, and ticket email received. This flight would be on the Dreamliner, which I had good memories of on Etihad just months earlier. The better humidity really made a huge difference.

So why is Air India flying this sector? My guess is because international departures out of India tend to be late at night, arriving in Hong Kong early next morning, the plane would sit idle waiting for its return trip home in the evening for a late night arrival back in India. A 3 hour flight in between would make sense to eat up the idle time during the day. It is a long journey from Mumbai to Delhi to Hong Kong to Osaka.

This also meant my departure to Kansai would be quite early, just before 8am, putting it shy of the first airport bus service.

Air India's check-in desks were empty when I arrived. While I did online check-in earlier, all passengers need to go through a document check at the airport, so it would not really make a difference anyway. I was processed efficiently and was air-side in no time.

The Dreamliner had arrived on-time from its Mumbai/Delhi flight and was parked at the further gates of the main terminal. It would be 1 stop less on the people mover with no risk of taking a bus to the gate like Hong Kong Express occasionally does.

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Meanwhile, the sun was rising behind the airplanes.

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Boarding was timely and the doors closed early. The flight was empty up in the front part of Economy but had a good loading in the back with very few Indians continuing on. My first impressions were the plane was quite beaten up with a noticeable amount of dirt having built up on the tray table and paint peeling off the window tint control. Nevertheless, each seat already had a pillow and blanket laid out.

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We departed into the morning sky uneventfully. Today's flight time would be 2 hours and 50 minutes at well over 1000 km/h thanks to prevailing winds.

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Unfortunately, the tint makes photo-taking a bit difficult with a weird yellowish tone to the results.

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The legroom was quite good and I stretched out comfortably without touching the seat in front of me.

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Earphones were already placed in the lower seat pocket. Nothing fancy to write about, but they were sufficient for a short flight.

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The crew seemed relaxed and served a snack and drinks first, followed by breakfast with 3 choices (omelette, fish, or vegetarian). Adventurous, I chose the vegetarian option, which was a traditional Indian meal, spicy, and contents unknown. Since I had no benchmark, I couldn't tell whether it was up to standard or not, but it wasn't really for my taste.

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It didn't take that long to see the west coast of Taiwan.

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The rest of my row was empty so I was quite comfortable albeit tired. There was no annoying IFE box beneath the seat in front of me, although the IFE itself was quite pitiful with no TV shows at all. There was a reasonable movie selection with many new titles.

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It is a touch-screen but there was also a control mechanism for manual handling.

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The lights were dimmed not long after takeoff despite being a daytime flight. However, it was possible to individually control your window's tint to override the central setting. The views were decent as we entered Japanese territory. Kagoshima and its volcano were fully visible, followed by Miyazaki, and then Shikoku.

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We flew at 41000 feet and it was quite a smooth flight. Most passengers didn't know the lavatories were in the middle and back of the cabin, so were confused when they reached the front rows and there was nothing. The lavatory was well-stocked with moisturizer, soap, and even mouthwash, perhaps a remnant from the overnight flight from India. It wasn't so clean, and the toilet seat kept on falling down so using it as a urinal wasn't too easy.

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Shikoku's coastline - Naruto's whirlpools seemed weak this morning.

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We flew just off Kobe, with its own single-runway airport in the sea easily located, then made a sharp turn to land at Kansai from the northeast.

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We touched down ahead of schedule in sunny Osaka.

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Kansai looked fairly empty at this hour and it wasn't long before we parked. Like my Cathay flights previously, we had to take the people mover into the terminal. Since I sat at the front of the Economy cabin and Business Class looked empty, I was spared a long lineup at immigration. My handcarry and I were at the train station about 30 minutes after arrival. It would be sunny in Osaka today.

Air India is a great budget choice for this fifth freedom route. Unless you booked very early in one of Hong Kong Express' regular specials, you will likely find the next best price here. The plane's upkeep might not be too good, but it was a comfortable ride with IFE, free meal, and luggage. They also fly the Dreamliner to Seoul on a similar schedule, so if the price is right, give them a try.

More photos on my website : Air India 5th Freedom Hong Kong - Osaka Flight Report

offerendum Feb 2, 2018 2:05 am

Nice pictures of HK! The vegetarian meal looks relative good in my eyes, normally itīs one of Indias strenghs.

fotographer Feb 2, 2018 4:25 am

nice shots

kosy91 Feb 5, 2018 6:55 pm

Thanks for bringing this trip report to FT. Havent seen too many reports of AI on 5th freedom routes.

AUCLABruin Feb 6, 2018 10:20 pm

Great trip report. If and when AI gets sold I can't see this route lasting too long, but it looks like a great choice for a lower price fare.

hkskyline Feb 7, 2018 10:39 pm


Originally Posted by AUCLABruin (Post 29388442)
Great trip report. If and when AI gets sold I can't see this route lasting too long, but it looks like a great choice for a lower price fare.

Actually, AI alternates flying ICN and KIX as a tag-on from DEL/BOM. I suspect it is because it would otherwise sit idle in HKG after arriving from India in the early morning and departing for India again in the evening. So they can do a 2-3 hour flight roundtrip rotation during the day. Timing-wise, it's great for HKers to head out to 2 popular vacation spots.

hkskyline Sep 22, 2018 9:14 pm

Fall comes around November in this part of the world, and when it does, the city turns red. Similar to the spring counterpart for cherry blossoms, the fall foliage experience in Kyoto is organized, tidy, but still very crowded.

Kiyomizu-dera Temple is already a popular pilgrimmage site for tourists. Despite scaffolding for restoration works, this place was still bursting with people.

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Located just outside the main historic centre, a long line waited to get into Tofukuji before opening.

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More of the same at Nanzenji.

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More on my website : http://www.globalphotos.org/kyoto.htm


mad_atta Sep 24, 2018 7:47 am

Fabulous photos of the autumn colour!

hkskyline Sep 27, 2018 6:49 am

Eikando looked impressive already outside. It tempted me to pay the admission fee to explore more inside the walls.

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Shinnyodo is an easy walk uphill into a secluded forest.

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fishball Oct 1, 2018 7:32 am

for a 787 this is a pretty worn out plane

GuyCCU83 Oct 1, 2018 11:24 am

The bustling red and orange colours add a new dimension. Really sensuous. The Indian vegetarian breakfast which you ordered is a staple food from south India It consist of Idly, Vadai and Upama. Compared to North Indian foods south Indian food is less spicy.:D

hkskyline Oct 2, 2018 8:19 am


Originally Posted by GuyCCU83 (Post 30267044)
The bustling red and orange colours add a new dimension. Really sensuous. The Indian vegetarian breakfast which you ordered is a staple food from south India It consist of Idly, Vadai and Upama. Compared to North Indian foods south Indian food is less spicy.:D

Yikes, that is less spicy already? I actually quite like vegetarian food during my past India visits, especially in thali style.

TravelLawyer Feb 28, 2019 11:24 am

@hkskyline how was your return flight?

hkskyline Mar 5, 2019 5:59 am


Originally Posted by AtomicLush (Post 30832100)
@hkskyline how was your return flight?

Ah yes, I have that on my website as a separate flight report : https://www.globalphotos.org/ai315.htm

Madone59 Mar 5, 2019 2:16 pm

Really great photos. Thank you for sharing ^


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