InterflugIL62, some unsolicited advice - you might want to edit your post above.

Additionally, remember moderators have their own lives outside of FT (I know, it's unbelievable) so sometimes, an e-mail can be more useful. It's just not the decent thing to wash your dirty linen in public, so to speak.

Apart from that, interesting, if lengthy, trip report. Well done. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

[QUOTE]Originally posted by InterflugIL62:
[B] Thanks. Curious, are you Israeli?

Just a hunch.

Actually, Italian American.

Keep the posts coming!

Nice report.

I've never had the chance to visit Israel. I guess I've been too cautious. Sounds like a wonderful place worth exploring someday. Let me know if I can contact you via email, as I have some questions for you regarding the country.

Regards.

<<She is annoying alot of people but they won't write it here, laugh.( I can't blame them, to be honest) <<

Interflug, I have made a strong effort to be polite and unlike you (please see your offensive remarks above) I have avoided making "personal" attacks. I remember you from a year ago but was unaware that you had been "expelled" (asked to leave the Boards). I recognised you immediately a few months ago on the El Al board.I am sure that I am "annoying" to some, especially as defending Israel is not popular in some circles. But you see, with an Israeli mother who defends her country, I have a tendency to respond to comments I may find insensitive and offensive. And I can assure you that my mother would not have been as polite as I am.

>>I find if funny that when I said 'Luftwaffe' and I was joking, being playful, and I even wrote via private e-mail to them and apologized, she defended my right to say that. <<

Mmmm yes it is very, very funny indeed, as I actually now can sympathise more with the poster who was also offended by your Luftwaffe comments. Maybe it was a good lesson and medicine for me. As we are talking about this, in your report you mention your surprise of German tourists in Tel Aviv. I personally believe in "reconciliation / good will" and appreciate the fact that many German tourists do visit Israel. My mother by the way receives a pension from them because of what happened to her during the war, which at least is a nice symbolic gesture.

>>I have been very positive with Israel. I know NO ONE who likes Israel's harsh security checks, even Israelis hate them<<

Mmmm not the ones I know. We must mix with a different crowd. You don't have relatives in Israel who risk being blown up. Security in fact has been criticised. A few months ago 2 British suicide bombers slipped into Israel and blew a few Israelis up in a Tel Aviv rstaurant; in fact right next to your hotel. I assume they probably also arrived from London on British Airways, like you did.

>>and they go through much less than we foreigners do, but then all of a sudden 'my right' seems to come to an end. >>

For your information Interflug, the reason foreigners go through more security than Israelis is that Israelis in general do not blow up other Israelis. But you will be surprised. My mother is Israeli and they ask her a lot of personal questions also. My relatives don't gripe about security; they gripe about the customs officials who try to tax them on everything they try to bring back.

>>Unfortunately, there are many who feel this way. They will fight for one's right to do something, but then as soon as they don't agree with it, they will take away that right, very hypocritical. Disgusting is more like it.>>

Here we go again; your use of the word "disgusting" to me is strong and offensive; maybe not to others but certainly to me. Why are you so angry? What would you say if I were to refer to some of your country's policies as "disgusting?" Though I did laugh at parts of your comments, I find some remarks impolite and insensitive.

>>If I had played with ELAL's name, and I can assure you many do, MANY, she would have had a fit. Having done it with Lufthansa, that is ok. I have a big problem there, sorry. <<

No Interflug if it is done in "good taste" I would not have a fit. Everybody knows that EL AL stands for "Every landing, always late." The problem with this is that now, El Al has an excellent on time performance record so the nickname these days makes no sense.

>>Anyway, let her have her rants. Maybe the moderators will wake up http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif and send her back to the ELAL board. Nothing happens over there! <<

MMmmmmm I consider your personal comments above to be very impolite and rude. I think I now understand why you were expelled a year ago, though I really do not know all the details. I think you had a run-in about Air India. I really do not know the facts.

I apologise if I got personal with you but you started the personal impolite attacks.

Britt777, thank you! I went in to edit and she got it before I could finish the edit, sorry.

I may not even read it.

Gee, try to have a life here LOL.

G-5, thanks. The report is over.

I may do one for the November trip, once things settles down. I would do it as that was an awesome trip. I also have half my Cathay trip, I would need to finish it, but also a great trip.

SQ, my neighbor! Sure, e-mail me and I welcome it. Israel is a great place. Just don't let her turn you off it. LOL

Bretteee, PLEASE!!

I did edit, please delete the post, thanks.

First of all I wasn't expelled, I got up and left. It had nothing to do with Air India. I am trying to let that pass.

I apologize for offending you and I aplogize for offending dear Israel(which I never did).

May we move on please?

Also, again, I did remove the other post, or most of it, now you have kept it, please delete it, thank you.

>> some unsolicited advice - you might want to edit your post above. >>

Thank you. Interflug did edit his comments about me but it seems I got there before the editting process began.

ah ok, so, please edit your post, thank ya

Kudos to InterflugIL62 for a wonderfully entertaining trip report. However, seeing that he says that it is now finished and that the discussion is drifting away from travel-related issues, I think its best that I lock it now to prevent any further acrimony.

Thanks
Sean (B747-437B)
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