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YOW-YYZ-YVR-YYZ-YOW Report

Old Jan 29, 00, 12:39 pm
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YOW-YYZ-YVR-YYZ-YOW Report

The day began at 8am with the wakeup call from MrWakeUp.com (as learned of on FlyerTalk ) Got ready and was at the Kingston train station by 9:20 for my 9:58 train to Ottawa. I wont get too much into the train story, but I will say this: Seated in front of me was a woman who attempted to order a Molson Export at 10:15am and was denied. To my right was another woman who kept spilling orange juice on herself, and to my rear was a mother and teenage girl who attempted to smoke right at their seat. It was quite the two hour train ride, I assure you!!! Oh, and I was the "emergency door opener" to boot. I had to spend a good five minutes with the train attendant learning how to open the door if called upon. Well I'm happy to report that I was not called upon, and Via Rail train number 640 to Ottawa was right on schedule.

I made my way to the airport by bus for $2.25. It was so easy and pleasant that I began to ask myself: why is Ottawa's bus transit system so much better than that of Toronto? Whatever they are doing, it saved me about $20 in cab fare, and it took about five extra minutes. Needless to say, I was (and still am) very proud of myself

I check-in with Express Check-In kiosk (version 1.0) with the small, hard to read screens and proceeded to the local Swiss Chalet for a light lunch. I sit now in the nearly new Maple Leaf Lounge Ottawa. There is one other in the lounge with me, yet the place is somewhat a mess. The lounge is very nice, and has a wonderful view of the parked aircraft. This is my first experiance with soup in an airport lounge (mind you I've only been loungeworthy for just under two years). If I do decide to partake in the soup, I'll let you all know how it was!!!

My flight (AC457) will be pushing back from gate 18 in about 1h30m if all goes well. It's an A320 an I have secured seat 4K for my short flight this afternoon. I will check-in to the board again from Toronto and I will be able to share some interesting detail at that point.

(Looks like I will miss Dorian at the Delta Vancouver Suites by just a few hours. I wish him all the best on his trip - it sounds wonderful. I am sorry to announce that I will not be able to provide live video broadcasts of my room That was really "cool" Dorian, nice idea!!!)

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Old Jan 29, 00, 1:15 pm
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Thanks for the first part of the report, Fisch--AC had really fresh (not just warmed up0 rolls to go with the soup last time I was in the Ottawa lounge. It was a great treat since my 8 PM flight was cancelled and I hadn't eaten supper yet.
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Old Jan 29, 00, 2:02 pm
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Seems Ottawa has a flight cancelation problem. My flight AC457 was announced as cancelled due to "equipment problems". The A320 is very close to full. The lounge attendant didn't have much info so I called the Elite line. The agent told me that if is now just delayed by 1h25m while an A319 is flown in from YUL. (Note A319 has 1/2 the J seats the A320 does). I am an upgraded J pax, and it looks like I may be in Y for this first leg of my trip

My main concern is making my connection to YVR on the A330. I hope it goes well, as I really want to see this aircraft.
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Old Jan 29, 00, 2:02 pm
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Sorry, double post!

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Old Jan 29, 00, 11:23 pm
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Well, after it was all said and done, the A319 arrived YOW at 16:10 and pushed back from gate 20 at 16:40. I did retain my J class seat 4K, and there were even a few empty J seats (one of which was next to me )

The rather rushed snack service was a ham and cheese on a wonderful foccatia with herbed olive oil. I partook in a few glasses of Australian red wine which was okay at best. The flight was 57 minutes gate-to-gate, and just 41 minutes in the air. I made it to YYZ with time to spare (but not enough for a visit to the old MLL!).

I'm rather tired, and thus I will conclude the report in the morning. Preview: A330 a nice aircraft, but there are some drawbacks.
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Old Jan 30, 00, 8:25 pm
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Well, I had a very restful sleep, and spent the day with a few friends of mine from UBC. I was going to go out with them last night, but the jet lag was just too great. They'll be dropping by my hotel room shortly for a last visit

So, where did I leave off? Ah yes, AC457 from YOW-YYZ arrives terminal 2 at 17:45. I make my way from gate 89D where my flight arrived to gate 83 where my A330 is parked getting readdy for its YYZ-YVR flight AC137. I did the Elite pre-board thing, and was welcomed by a very nice flight crew. I took my seat 4K, and had an AC ground staff (mechanical) member sit next to me. He told me he was trying to fix the Sony Passport system units at 4H and 4K. He went into the terminal to find a new window seat for me with a TV system that would work. The verdict: 5K. Preflight Perrier, and a quick, on schedule pushback, and we were underway. Interesting to see two Sony employees with the AC ground crew onbaord in YYZ. I guess the Passport system isn't quite as problem free as everyone would like. Strike one of the A330 was that my Sony Playstation games were not working Other than that, I really like video on demand at the seat, and those screens.... Brilliant size!

I had a much better red wine from Italy on this flight, and I opted for the chicken in a tomatoe sauce for dinner. The food just isn't good with Air Canada, and I really don't know how they pass this off for business class food service, I mean it's just horrid stuff.

My other concern about the A330 is the fact that there is very little space between your legs and the traytable (ie: the tray is hard to get to lay flat it you move around at all or if you have a blanket).

Arrival into YVR was some 35 minutes early, and I quickly gathered my baggage and was on the Airporter bus service to downtown. Check-in at the Delta Vancouver Suites was under 30 seconds, and managed to get a Signatures Club room as a result of my Aeroplan Elite status. That meant I could have a free breakfast this morning With the AC promotion and a coupon for extra miles, I earned 2,000 Aeroplan miles. I was able to have all that for my well researched rate of $129 CAD!

I will post the details of the Fairmont Vancouver Airport, and my flight back to YYZ again on the A330 tomorrow.
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Old Jan 30, 00, 9:01 pm
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Sorry to hear about the food. I have been generally pleased with the selection on AC although there are times you wonder what the chef had been drinking when he concocted some of the selections.
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Old Jan 31, 00, 1:06 pm
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Great report!!
Flight westbound have been very short last week, my YYZ - YVR on Sat was only 4 hrs 10 mins compared to two weeks ago when the YYZ - YVR I took was 5 hrs 30 mins and the return was only 3 hrs 20 mins.

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Old Jan 31, 00, 4:38 pm
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Fisch, great report. It's interesting for me to hear about the food, as I'm told by the Canadian FA's, that their great food is soon to end as its so expensive, they are going to convert to the AC stuff

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Old Jan 31, 00, 9:45 pm
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After my late check-out of the Delta Vancouver Suites, I made the brief walk from the hotel to the Pan Pacific/Waterfront Centre to catch the Airporter to YVR. Traffic was a mess, and it took a good hour to get to the airport.

I walked in and up stairs to the lobby. I have to say I was somewhat expecting what would happen next, as this was a complimentary stay due to a lack of hot water during my last stay in November. Anyway, the agent pulled up my reservation and began to read. It took about a minute for her to read whatever had been included as remarks on my reservation. She explained that I had been upgraded to the Entree Gold floor (executive floor) and to proceed to the 14th floor. As I left, I noticed that she called up to the Entree Gold Concierge to let her know I was on my way! When I reached the 14th floor, I was greeted by a very cheerful, and helpful woman to escorted me directly from the elevator to my room 1431 (the exact room I had during the "hot water affair" ). On the table was a bottle of Champagne and chocolate dipped strawberries with a note from the general manager. What a great welcome! Well done Fairmont YVR Place!!!!

Woke up at 06:30PST this morning and got ready. I then went to the Entree Gold lounge where I enjoyed a great complimentary buffet breakfast complete with smoked salmon. That done, I was ready to head to the AC Elite Domestic check-in. Note: Air Canada no longer does in-room check-in at the Fairmont YVR, leaving CP as the only participant. When I asked why, the Entree Gold concierge told me that because AC has no concierge service, they found it very difficult to do. They ended up having Maple Leaf Lounge attendants running around doing the in-room stuff. I'll be interested to see what happens with CP and this.

Anyway, I checked in, and had my bag checked only as far as YYZ. The reason for this will become clear shortly. I was FastTrack stamped, and off I went to fork over yet another $10 to the Vancouver Airport Authority. I made my usual trip to the MLL, and had some juice. Before I knew, it was 08:00, and I was due to push back at 08:30. I made my way to B12 for boarding, and took my seat 4A on this A330-300. I did have a seatmate, but a very pleasant woman from YVR working in Ottawa on a government finance audit committee. We took off, and were well above the rain in Vancouver within a few minutes.

Time for breakfast, and for some reason AC's breakfast service in J class is not bad at all, and some might say quite good. I wish they'd put some effort into the lunch/dinner service. Today we were offered a summer vegetable and cheese quiche or a crepe with potato. I had the quiche, and a few glasses of Champagne. My TV was working fine except for the fact the again the video games were not to be. I think AC may have not yet enabled this feature, as well as the internet access that can be accessed with the Ethernet port in the seat (too expensive I guess). Landed and were at the gate 5 minutes early at 15:50.

Here's were the YYZ baggage check comes into focus! I was booked and upgraded for a YYZ-YOW flight at 17:00, but was not planning on taking this flight, as I would not be able to catch any trains back to Kingston. I was going to cancel my YYZ-YOW flight, and take a 18:00 train from Toronto (downtown) to Kingston. I though I'd try to have my YYZ-YOW flight (a discounted, and highly frowned upon "L" fare ticket) turned into a YYZ-YGK (Kingston) flight. This would make my travels so my easier, and make my Aeroplan account just a bit richer! Well, the agent at the YOW Rapidair desk said no, but to check at the ticket counter. That I did, and the wonderful agent at the Elite line typed away for a few moments, and said the wonderful words: "I have a 6:45pm flight"! Thank you AC agent YYZ24638! For all CP flyer, take note, there are a few gems in the AC team as well. That really made my day, and was so pleased to be able to relax in the MLL instead of sitting on a bad smelling train

Made it back to my apartment safe and sound, and having had a great weekend in Vancouver. God how I'd like to live in Vancouver
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Old Feb 1, 00, 8:46 am
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Glad to see an AC gem in your day. That has been the bulk of my experience fortunately--lots of angels on my shoulder.

Vancouver is a nice place to visit but I wouldn't . . . .
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Old Feb 1, 00, 10:18 am
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Glad you had a great time Fisch!

So what's the difference between Gold floor and regular floor at the Fairmount? How's the view of the airport?
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