New American 777-200 retrofit Business Class (AA 772 J) trip report
Oct 17, 14, 12:25 am
#31
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: ORD
Programs: AA EXP,2MM, DL Gold,Starwood PLT
Posts: 3,876
Do you think AA ever pre-tested these seats and the cabin layout (forward and backward facing seats, seat width and space, ability to look out the window, etc) with actual passengers before they committed to what I think is a bizzare layout ? Do 50% of the people actually prefer to fly backwards? Certainly not me.
Oct 17, 14, 12:26 am
#32
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1K 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott Ti, LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 53,474
Do you think AA ever pre-tested these seats and the cabin layout (forward and backward facing seats, seat width and space, ability to look out the window, etc) with actual passengers before they committed to what I think is a bizzare layout ? Do 50% of the people actually prefer to fly backwards? Certainly not me.
Oct 17, 14, 12:46 am
#33
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: JFK
Programs: CX Green | UA Silver | Marriott Lifetime Platinum | Hyatt Globalist | A-Club Silver | AA EXP
Posts: 804
They don't take this into account when designing these seats? Solstys seats are adjusted by 3 degree to compensate for the plane's tilt so that the seats are fully flat in flight.
Last edited by Rivarix; Oct 17, 14 at 12:51 am
Oct 17, 14, 1:02 am
#34
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 332
CX's F cabin is outstanding and is, in my opinion, one of the best overall products in the sky. The only drawback is that the upright position for takeoff and landing is slightly uncomfortable.
Oct 17, 14, 6:08 am
#35
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 334
All 772s will be refitted but it will be some time before the fleet is complete. They are way behind the original schedule and only 1 is complete with another 3 to be completed in the next 6 weeks. At that rate it will take a couple of years most likely to get to all of the fleet of the 47 of them. Approximately half of the 767's will be reconfigured with 4 currently completed. The rest will be phased out with the introduction of the 787 over the next 3 years.
So, it will be very hit or miss for both aircraft for some time.
So, it will be very hit or miss for both aircraft for some time.
To add to the discussion about rear facing seats, I have flown many a time on BA in a rear facing seat and it really doesn't make any difference to the whole experience. As someone else pointed out I would rather sit rear facing than in coach.
Oct 17, 14, 6:28 am
#36
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold / Hilton Diamond / IHG Diamond Ambassador / Marriot Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 2,232
I fly CX in F and J all the time. The Herringbone seats to which the other poster referenced are only for business class and limited to the 744 and A340, neither of which are used for flights ex-USA at the moment. The rest of the CX fleet has been retrofitted with the far more comfortable Cirrus seats.
CX's F cabin is outstanding and is, in my opinion, one of the best overall products in the sky. The only drawback is that the upright position for takeoff and landing is slightly uncomfortable.
CX's F cabin is outstanding and is, in my opinion, one of the best overall products in the sky. The only drawback is that the upright position for takeoff and landing is slightly uncomfortable.
Oct 18, 14, 7:39 pm
#39
Original Poster
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Stockholm
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 202
Oct 22, 14, 6:45 pm
#40
Join Date: Jan 2000
Programs: UA 1k, AA EXPLT, NZ GE, VA PLT Hyatt Diam, Marr Plat, HH Diam
Posts: 3,394
Agree! And the CX version of it is tops. AA's A321T F seat is a disappointing version -- really limited legroom (not length, but the limited vertical space within the footwell). Curious as to why it ended up that way.
Oct 23, 14, 12:49 pm
#41
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: MO
Programs: AA EXPLT
Posts: 430
Oct 24, 14, 6:40 pm
#42
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2010
Programs: AA Advanatge
Posts: 474
Most actually don't care. Rear facing is actually better for sleeping given the pitch upward of the aircraft in flight so your head is slightly elevated rather then your feet with forward facing seats. I've flown rear facing many times on BA and actually prefer the rear facing seats on the upper deck.
Also, I would like to add that the division between Y+ and J sums up the "new American" perfectly.
Cheers,
AA777
Oct 29, 14, 8:58 pm
#44
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Boston
Programs: AAdvantage EXP
Posts: 13
I'm booked on AA 940 on 14 Dec from SCL-DFW. When I booked it a few weeks ago, it was showing 772 as the equipment with the new interior. Now it's showing a 777 with the old seatmap. Wonder why the change? 
