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paulwuk Aug 18, 14 1:31 pm

Great idea for a thread I agree about the lack of distractions on board a plane, it's a great argument against on board phone service or wifi.

ABZGirl Aug 18, 14 1:45 pm


Originally Posted by golfmad (Post 23381438)
Sorry, totally OT but the 'secret plan to fight inflation' was one of my favorite West Wing episodes. Great FT name :)

Oh and very much enjoying the thread.

Ooh - 'The West Wing'! We're currently four episodes into series four for the umpteenth time! We've had to replace some series DVDs since they've worn out from repeated viewings :)

I'm enjoying this thread too - but can we start one about 'The West Wing'?! :D

Genius1 Aug 18, 14 1:51 pm

Great idea, cws ^ Looking forward to spending the week reading about your travels.

corporate-wage-slave Aug 18, 14 1:54 pm

Updated to complete Monday's travel, taking me to a night stop in Madrid, I will now try to answer some of the questions in a separate post.

T8191 Aug 18, 14 2:04 pm


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 23383758)
Updated to complete Monday's travel, taking me to a night stop in Madrid, I will now try to answer some of the questions in a separate post.

Hmmm ... your pseudo-BizJet seemed pretty dank, albeit survivable for an 1 hour sector. I've had better food offering in the back of an RAF C-130 :D

jayjaygee Aug 18, 14 2:05 pm

I don't know why (and I'm trying not to be a fawning gushbag), but I am really looking forward to the remainder of this, er, non-trip report.

Not sure if I should be looking to get out a little this week, just to mix things up.

happeemonkee Aug 18, 14 2:07 pm

Really great idea for a thread CWS

As I am an infrequent flyer, it's really interesting to read how someone with your flight frequencies manages on a daily basis. I normally need a holiday after a TP run :)

Thanks for taking the time to do this.

T8191 Aug 18, 14 2:08 pm


Originally Posted by jayjaygee (Post 23383841)
I don't know why (and I'm trying not be be a fawning gushbag), but I am really looking forward to the remainder of this, er, non-trip report.

Just think of it as a dissertation on the suffering associated with earning BAEC LTG. :)

I have no idea how some people can live that sort of existence, but then they are all younger than me.

Fly Baby Aug 18, 14 2:11 pm

Such an interesting thread so far - very much looking forward to the rest. Always interesting to compare your life on the road with that of others. CWS - I stand in awe of your organisation and resilience.


Originally Posted by DrGee (Post 23380908)
I'd also like to know whether those that do so much travelling for their work actually enjoy it. Or is it a bit of a chore that they secretly hate?

I've done a lot of travelling over the last 2 years - probably looking at GGL in the not too distant future. Its part of my job (and I thought I knew what I was getting into) but I can definitely say, hand on heart, its really wearing me down. Its cost me my relationship with my boyfriend, I have little social life and my puggies (and friends) barely see me.

It started out fun and exciting. Now - not so much :( Waking up in another hotel, breakfast on my own, queues for security, boarding, arrivals, hire cars, hotel check-ins - the never ending expenses claim forms, a flat tyre at T5 last week...first world problems I know. But collectively, its wearing.

Trouble is I like meeting new people and I still enjoy what I actually do so I need to stick with the travel for now. Things can only get better. Off for as holiday in 2 weeks time ^

BTW - Dr Gee - you're not my old physics teacher are you? :confused: :)

jcm9000 Aug 18, 14 2:13 pm

This is excellent, really interesting to read how the never ending flyers do it! One thing though CWS, im confused by your bus route and hotel arrival times (not that it matters!!). Thanks for fitting in the time to do this.

dddc Aug 18, 14 2:14 pm


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 23377318)
Monday morning - London City to Granada, then Madrid I follow the advice given by DDDC, walk over the footbridge, through the office building (so unBritish!) and into the Bank Street entrance of the Jubilee line.

Tube: Canary Wharf to London City
Leave Canary Wharf: 07:46
Arrive London City: 08:01
Jubilee line to Canning Town, then DLR.

That was easy enough. Seats all the way.

Glad to have been of assistance!

A bit of trivia for you, the bridge you walked over is just one half of what was originally there. (Hence the few steps down to the building level) The other half was removed and the dock partially filled in to create the land mass for the buildings that now stand there. Heron Quay was the "inspiration" for London City Airport as they landed a Dash-8 there to prove it could be done.

PJSMITH0 Aug 18, 14 2:17 pm

You were very lucky with the Hilton Madrid shuttle. I like this hotel but you can wait over 45 mins the shuttle. On my last visit when the shuttle finally did arrive it was only. For BA crew. Fortunately the dap attain saw our BA Gold tags and invited our family to share the shuttle. Still you right about good links into the city and the rooms are very good as are the room service burgers

missdimeaner Aug 18, 14 2:19 pm

Just had time to read this through....great 'diary'.
Looking forward to the next bit.

I agree totally with breakfast 'breathgate'...but do as my dentist advises - brush before breakfast but floss and mouthwash after.
...my dentist is probably a very rich man!

corporate-wage-slave Aug 18, 14 2:57 pm

Firstly I am extremely grateful to heckenhocker, Flexible preferences, Tobias-UK, katie666, Tintin_on_the_road, bobbob1976, gustavmahler, rxfleming, thejohn, Sixth Freedom, AeroWesty, Crampedin13A, Paralytic, expatboy, Frequent_Flyer1, 1HourPhoto, pablol, Vinotraveller, AeroWesty, IAMORGAN, Cymro, 710 77345, Physci, redshift27, csutter, golfmad, Speedbird876, fredandgingermad, BA0197, Banana4321, bradders81, TRVLUPGD, bafan, crazy8534, HIDDY, longpause, paulwuk, ABZGirl and Genius1. I am genuinely very humbled that all of you have taken the time to comment in this thread, and I've read all your comments with interest. That's a huge list of names.


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 23378460)
Ah ha, so if the Hilton Canary Wharf saves you time tomorrow you must be on the babybus? Did you not fancy the Ibis Styles hotel 5 minutes walk away from LCY? Tube from Canary Wharf to Canning Town then DLR to LCY?

Well you got that flight a bit wrong! I get a hefty negotiated deal on Hilton rates, and no reduction at all on Ibis, but yes, I'll look at that for further travel.


Originally Posted by our_kid (Post 23378513)
Am on it too - maybe what you also get up to in flight? Am guessing a well loaded iPod or equivalent with top tunes :)

Funnily enough, I don't listen to music during working hours, it seems wrong somehow. Obviously when the day is done I'm straight off to Zane Lowe's and NME's recent finds.


Originally Posted by andset1191 (Post 23378900)
Goodness me CWS, we were on the same tube ex T5 today. I was in the first coach going to Boston Manor (I'm in the Hilton Syon Park tonight).

How strange, but there again you're something of a FTer proximity magnet, are you not? I was in coach 3, you would have spotted me desperately trying to upload stuff into Flyertalk!


Originally Posted by dddc (Post 23378977)
Perplexed as why you took to the long way with the DLR to South Quay, with a long connection at the Bank/Monument complex and not the Jubilee line from Westminster (down a few escalators, but no long walk like bank or the 1 stop change at Green Park), and then the few minutes walk through the West Atrium at CW and then over the bridge to the Hilton?


Originally Posted by InfiniteCycle (Post 23380766)
Jub was closed from Westminster yesterday.

I used the Transport for London search tool, it didn't through up the Jubilee line and now I know why. The TfL tool also probably doesn't know about the footbridge over to Canary Wharf since this morning it did suggest a DLR ride to from South Quay to Canary Wharf Jubilee and then Canning Town, which makes no sense at all! So I followed dddc's advice and it was quick enough to just walk over the water.


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 23379214)
Do you mean you have all of next week off, or are you crossing the international date line at the end of the week? :p

Ah that was unclear: I'm travelling every day until and including Saturday, except that Friday is my day off from flying.


Originally Posted by EuropeanPete (Post 23379938)
I will admit that my first thought on seeing the BAEC app was that it seemed slightly unrealistic that your upcoming flight was showing on the latest version. Maybe that's now a GGL-only benefit :)

The latest version of the App is a lot better than previous versions, it is more or less usable now. But I use it as a backup, it isn't too tricky for me to get a printed copy, I've even got Iberia.com to behave this week!



Originally Posted by DrGee (Post 23380908)
I'd also like to know whether those that do so much travelling for their work actually enjoy it. Or is it a bit of a chore that they secretly hate?


Originally Posted by Omba (Post 23380922)
Or to use a Heppell Flip, do they affect to hate it, but secretly love it ;)


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 23380944)
Of course, you can have a telephone call or email exchange with someone you know well very easily—but when you are talking to people you don't know yet, particularly when you don't share a common fluent language, it is quite hard to get any further than the transient and purely professional rapport sustained only by your immediate need for the conversation.

Well indeed, a lot of my work is dealing with people who speak various languages; and in some cultures (most cultures?) the personal connection is a key part of doing business or gaining trust. The English speaking world is actually on a bit of limb here, I feel. I don't really parse the travel as a chore or a thrill, it's just work: some people drive buses, I sit on an aircraft, and it certainly beats dagging sheep in the pouring rain.


Originally Posted by gav0106 (Post 23382083)
Thanks for a great read cws and I am sure lots of useful info. Out of interest do you book your own flights and itinerary or you have agent who does this for? All the best gav


Originally Posted by dylanks (Post 23383050)
Do you plan to cover how you booked this trip (or how it was booked for you)? When you book these multi-city itineraries, are they separate tickets? Fully-flexible? Do you use apps like TripIt and FlightTrack Pro to keep track of it all, just rely on someone from your office to keep you informed, etc.?

This week I'm on inflexible tickets, and I've booked them all myself, they are all on 125 tickets this week. I know the system well now, and the limitations, what may go wrong and so on. I often take risks on separate tickets too, and BA haven't caused me any grief there (they would be churlish to complain). I do use travel agents for complex trips outside oneworld, Lufthansa and Air France KLM, if it's not worth my while doing the homework. I use Tripcase, which is better in North America than Europe, but it keep all telephone numbers together, lets me know if a flight is badly out of kilter and what the alternatives are.


Originally Posted by LondonElite (Post 23382199)
- Fisherman's Friends

Yes I am about to appoint this to the travel bag. The two fripperies I take with me - and I'm hard on myself not to take such trifles - are Vicks inhaler tube and witch-hazel eye drops. They really make a difference when flying. I also do the bags within bags, it makes easier to find things, especially in security.


Originally Posted by msm2000uk (Post 23382228)
Does the black mug travel with you?

I haven't got it with me at the moment, but I hope for a reunion with it tomorrow!

LondonElite Aug 18, 14 3:13 pm


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 23384122)
Yes I am about to appoint this to the travel bag. The two fripperies I take with me - and I'm hard on myself not to take such trifles - are Vicks inhaler tube and witch-hazel eye drops. They really make a difference when flying. I also do the bags within bags, it makes easier to find things, especially in security.

Following this with great interest! I generally keep some form of fresh-breath solution at hand (Mrs LE has reminded me kindly that there is nothing more off-putting than stale garlic breath).

Very interested to see where you are going next, and indeed if our travels might intersect (increasing chance of EU-travel this week).


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