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hamad Dec 14, 2012 3:52 pm

TR Kuwait Airways Islamabad-Kuwait-Frankfurt in F
 
Flight with Kuwait Airways ISB-KWI-FRA in F

Iam very sorry for the late post...Iam a bit busy with my studies so I have sadly not enough time.
Sadly I hadnt also time to made a complete Trip Report with Text - so this TR is primary filled with Pics.
But I hope you will enjoy it anyway.


http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...928_045919.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...928_044639.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...928_044707.jpg
ISB Departure Lounge

Flight from ISB to KWI was an Airbus A300 - Unfortunetely I havnt made any pics on that flight sector.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...928_081420.jpg
My Boarding Pass for Flight to FRA in KU's First Class

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...928-WA0001.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps4f6bb4ac.jpg
Kuwait Airways Lounge - nice Lounge with nice selection of Food.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...928_083317.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...928_083336.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...928_083433.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...928_083421.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...928_083506.jpg
I never saw a B747-400 operating to Frankfurt - so I was really happy when I realized that this Jumbo will take me back to Frankfurt. By the way as far as I know this is not a regulair KU Aircraft more it is a Aircraft of the Government of Kuwait.
You can see that on the Seal on the Aircraft and also later after Landing the Seal appears on the Screen.


http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...928_084909.jpg
Sitting in First Row in F - amazing Space in front of me :) Feeling like beeing in a Living room or in a Privat Jet :)

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...928_100613.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...928_093951.jpg
Shortly after takeoff...

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...929-WA0005.jpg
...some Snacks were served including a cup of Tea

Part 2 in Comment Post :)

hamad Dec 14, 2012 3:52 pm

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Inflight

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...928_124638.jpg
Lunch had started - there was a great selection of different Kind of meals

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...929-WA0004.jpg
I took some Chicken with Rice

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...928_134247.jpg
Later visiting the Toilette

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...928_134746.jpg
Somewhere over Europe

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...928_134658.jpg
KU175 (B744) after Arrival at Frankfurt had continued its Flight to Geneve after this short stop in FRA

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...928_134716.jpg
Air Transat and Emirates were parked next to KU

These were some gifts I got from KU
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...929-WA0002.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...929-WA0001.jpg
This chocolate was really delicious :D

Service onBoard was great - but KU has to update their Aircraft Cabin or has to buy new Aircraft.
Their First Class can not compare with other Arab Careers Business Class(such as Emirates, Etihad or Oman Air)

Hope you enjoy viewing the Pics...Once again sorry for not posting detailed Trip Report - will do it next time for next Trip.
But If you have any questions or comment feel free to post :)

hamad Dec 14, 2012 3:56 pm

This was exactly the Aircraft I came with - I arrived on 28 SEP and on 29 SEP it flew back from Geneve via FRA to KWI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rslIbsuChY

macabus Dec 14, 2012 5:45 pm

Interesting trip report.

I'd venture to guess that all the extra space in F is for prayers during flight...

blackmamba Dec 14, 2012 6:02 pm


Originally Posted by macabus (Post 19858855)
Interesting trip report.

I'd venture to guess that all the extra space in F is for prayers during flight...

and I was about to say what a waste of space. I guess they could be used for prayers but wouldn't it be better if they could place that area behind the upper deck cabin?

oneworld82 Dec 14, 2012 6:23 pm

That plane looks unreal... and straight out of the 1970s! Why on Earth would anyone pay for that is beyond my imagination...

mkjr Dec 14, 2012 7:27 pm


Originally Posted by oneworld82 (Post 19859016)
That plane looks unreal... and straight out of the 1970s! Why on Earth would anyone pay for that is beyond my imagination...

But some wonder why on earth I pay what I pay for some of the wines that I drink. Different strokes.

Thanks OP. nice TR. it is rare that I see reports like this on this airline.

NA-Flyer Dec 15, 2012 6:47 am

The TR is missing the most important thing: How does the F seat looks like ;)

Not one single shot of the F seat :confused:

lakers6902 Dec 15, 2012 11:17 am

Yea I was hoping for pics of the F seats.

Wonder why they didnt fill in the empty space with another two or so seats.

Jofneytoad Dec 15, 2012 11:21 am

You could have a game of football in the cabin there's so much room...

NYBanker Dec 15, 2012 10:12 pm

Thanks for sharing.

The only other pax that gets remotely close to that sort of legroom is the Pope!

http://media.boreme.com/post_media/2...pe-legroom.jpg

fly747first Dec 16, 2012 9:45 am

Hamad, despite the massive leg room in F, the seats weren't flat beds, right?

UrbaneGent Dec 17, 2012 12:08 am

Thanks for the pics - I was scrolling down hoping to see the actual seat instead of the bathroom :)

c_alt24 Dec 17, 2012 1:41 pm

Wow that is definitely unique. Would love to see anymore pics you might have from inside the plane.

blr1222 Dec 18, 2012 1:04 am


Originally Posted by NYBanker (Post 19865050)
Thanks for sharing.

The only other pax that gets remotely close to that sort of legroom is the Pope!

http://media.boreme.com/post_media/2...pe-legroom.jpg

How many miles do I have to redeem to ride on the Pope's plane?

gum Dec 18, 2012 2:45 am

An old KU timetable only had the B747-200
 
Hope you had a great flight. Have found an old timetable of KU at home!

In the late 90s they only had a B747-200 with four rows of F in the nose section, some First seats upstairs and also 2 rows with 2 seats each after door 1 L. Your boarding pass showed 3A, so I think they have just put out 2 rows of F.

Wondering how they use the additional space? For a lounge, a "majil" or a couch? A google search doesn´t deliver any interior pictures.

http://www.google.de/imgres?q=%22Kuw...&tx=368&ty=254

Wonder how the seat map look slike!

hamad Dec 18, 2012 8:15 am


Originally Posted by fly747first (Post 19866848)
Hamad, despite the massive leg room in F, the seats weren't flat beds, right?

First of all thanks to all for the nice comments.
Iam really Sorry that I missed to take some shots of the Seat - I was too tired to think about it :D

Unfortunetely the Seats werent flat bads but anyhow the Reclining was pretty good for sleeping - I slept very well.
Sth. like shown on the following pic(maybe a bit more):
http://www.united.com/web/de-DE/img/...f_seat_767.gif

The Seats were like this(concerning Size and Design), maybe a bit more modern and with electronic seat reclining etc.
http://www.samchuiphotos.com/Sudan/54.jpg
http://i516.photobucket.com/albums/u...I/DSC02649.jpg

hamad Dec 18, 2012 8:17 am


Originally Posted by gum (Post 19877798)
Hope you had a great flight. Have found an old timetable of KU at home!

In the late 90s they only had a B747-200 with four rows of F in the nose section, some First seats upstairs and also 2 rows with 2 seats each after door 1 L. Your boarding pass showed 3A, so I think they have just put out 2 rows of F.

Wondering how they use the additional space? For a lounge, a "majil" or a couch? A google search doesn´t deliver any interior pictures.

http://www.google.de/imgres?q=%22Kuw...&tx=368&ty=254

Wonder how the seat map look slike!

Actually it wasnt a 747-200 but a 747-400 - Its usually used for government purpose but also used sime time by Kuwait Airways.
And yes my Boarding Pass showed first 3A but after boarding Cabin Crew asked me kindly whether I could change to seat 2... which means that the Row I sit was Row 2 If Iam not wrong there was on the other side(left side) a First Row where 2 guys sit. But as you see in front of me there wasnt any row.

zcat18 Dec 19, 2012 1:31 pm

Fascinating report--many thanks for posting it! The china that they use looks quite nice. I wonder if it's also ordinarily meant for traveling dignitaries or if it is standard KU F china.

Circumknowitall Dec 19, 2012 4:16 pm

Fascinating stuff. That 744 looks great from the outside, not so good on the inside.

I'd love to get a ride on one of KU's A310's.

Jason85 Dec 20, 2012 4:12 pm

Thanks for the great report Hamad! I have flown on Kuwait Airways many times using the London-New York route as there is a stop over in London 3 times a week to/from Kuwait. Direct flights from Kuwait to New York is also 3 times a week. Kuwait Airways is in DIRE need of a complete refit! Not just the airplanes and the interior, but even customer service. It is very much lacking when you compare it to their neighbors (Emirates, Etihad, Qatar Airways, etc.) The problem is that Kuwait is richer than all their neighboring countries, but government interference and bureaucracy has not let Kuwait Airways thrive. Kuwait Airways is close to being privatized, so I hope things will change!

This 747 is mainly used by the Emir of Kuwait, but Kuwait Airways uses it every now and then for extra or alternative flights. He won't be needing this piece of junk anymore as he is about to receive his new (and first to be delivered) private 747-8! Here's a link to the video! Sweet!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rYzO7Az9e8

As for the extra space in the aircraft, it is for... buffets! (So I've been told!) The upper deck is completely off limits when flown by Kuwait Airways, and is only open for the royal flights. I had the pleasure of a sneak peak once flying from JFK to LHR and it is simply amazing! I usually fly on the 777, but that day this was flying to London! The upper deck pretty much looks like a private jet with an L shaped sofa and a bedroom with a king size bed and a shower! Amazing! I'm sure the new 747-8 is just out of this world!

Thanks for the great report!

19103_aa Dec 20, 2012 9:04 pm

Thank you for posting and a belated warm welcome to Flyertalk! I enjoy reading reports on airlines that we don't hear much about. It sounds like you had a very comfortable flight. Is that caviar I see on the salad plate?

hamad Dec 30, 2012 1:39 am

Thank you very much to all of you for your kind Comments.
Yes it is cavier on the salad plate :)


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