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MatthewLAX Jul 5, 2009 12:43 am


Originally Posted by neiltupper (Post 12012525)
He's flying on points accumulated over several years on a BA credit card. I'm paying for my ticket.

Could you purchase two WT+ seats use the points to upgrade both of you to Business Class? That way you would both enjoy premium cabin experiences and be able to sit together.

mjcewl1284 Jul 5, 2009 6:17 am


Originally Posted by neiltupper (Post 12010630)
First post here. I'm accompanying my father-in-law YVR-MPX this summer. He's in First, and I'm at the back of the bus. He is 80, lost his wife in the past year and has (mild) dementia. I like to visit him a couple of times during the flight. How impenetrable is that curtain? What would be the best way in your opinion to approach this? I'm just looking for visiting privileges.

It depends on your given flight crew. Some will be lenient and some will be by the book and will tell you that you can't. My wife and I have been in separate classes and most of the time the curtain has been penetrable (as you put it).

Linda VH Jul 5, 2009 7:01 am

I don't think anyone minds the quick pop in and check but it is extremely annoying to have someone standing in the aisle chatting. As to the dementia, it kind of surprises me you wouldn't be sitting with him even if it meant HE went economy as well.

dingo Jul 5, 2009 5:00 pm


Originally Posted by patgarrett (Post 12012081)
Agreed. You want to sit in F, pay for F. Otherwise there's just too much kerfuffle.

I hope you didn't read the full question or your response is even more rude than it comes off at first read.

To the OP: talk to the FA, tell them your story, ask if it is ok, and also ask how you can minimize disruption to the other FC pax while doing so.

Good luck.

ErikHB Jul 5, 2009 10:24 pm

One way to minimize the disturbance to other passengers may be to make sure he gets an aisle-accessible seat at the very rear end of the first class cabin.

tfar Jul 5, 2009 11:02 pm


Originally Posted by MatthewLAX (Post 12014438)
Could you purchase two WT+ seats use the points to upgrade both of you to Business Class? That way you would both enjoy premium cabin experiences and be able to sit together.

That is a very smart solution but the out of pocket cost would probably still be higher. I mean, I don't know the ticket prices or miles conditions, but in the OP's situation only a single coach ticket is bought. The other pax flies "free" in first. I agree it would make the most sense to buy two coach and upgrade both to business. Perhaps there are even enough miles to get one business class ticket entirely for free, buy one coach and have that upgraded to business with the remaining miles. That would be the ideal solution.

Till

MiamiAirport Formerly NY George Jul 6, 2009 12:10 pm

As said, the poster needs to speak with the crew and even should anyway if her father could have problems during flight. To that end, I would suggest that she reserve the last row in the J cabin and an aisle seat. That way if acceptable to the crew, the disturbance to the cabin will be less obtrusive.

moeve Jul 7, 2009 1:24 am

In this case giving the FAs a tip that there is a family member in the back should there be a problem would probably be a good idea anyway. Over and above that I bet the gentleman will sleep through a large portion fo the flight so an occational check would possibly go completely unnoticed by many guests in F anyway so way all the hoopla. The OP was just asking to go check everynow and then if the relative is doing ok.

dingo Jul 7, 2009 6:47 am


Originally Posted by moeve (Post 12023769)
In this case giving the FAs a tip that there is a family member in the back should there be a problem would probably be a good idea anyway. Over and above that I bet the gentleman will sleep through a large portion fo the flight so an occational check would possibly go completely unnoticed by many guests in F anyway so way all the hoopla. The OP was just asking to go check everynow and then if the relative is doing ok.

Great idea!

Efrem Jul 7, 2009 10:06 am


Originally Posted by neiltupper (Post 12012535)
...Just curious, why are the airport codes capitalized but the countries no?

At the risk of going a bit off-topic for this thread, the rules for writing country names in English evolved over centuries. Airport codes are an invention of the early computer age, when upper-case-only text was standard. In addition, writing them in upper-case helps distinguish them from three-letter words that happen to be spelled the same way: a FAT passenger is not (necessarily) also a fat passenger!

LTN Phobia Jul 7, 2009 11:48 am


Originally Posted by neiltupper (Post 12010630)
First post here. I'm accompanying my father-in-law YVR-MPX this summer. He's in First, and I'm at the back of the bus. He is 80, lost his wife in the past year and has (mild) dementia. I like to visit him a couple of times during the flight. How impenetrable is that curtain? What would be the best way in your opinion to approach this? I'm just looking for visiting privileges.

I would think most crew would be quite OK about having visit your father briefly, discreetly and quietly (in a way that causes as little disturbance to other passengers as possible). If I were a passenger nearby, I certainly do not have any problem with someone checking up on his elderly father as long as he is considerate towards others and do not cause too much disturbance.

However, given that your father suffers from dementia, it is possible that he may be required to travel with an assistant. You might like to check with the carrier about this.

squeakr Jul 7, 2009 12:50 pm

While I agree there's no need to sting the OP
 
As someone who went through several plane flights with an elderly parent also with mild dementia, there is NO guarantee the OP's father will sleep on such a long flight. "Sundowning" is a common effect of dementia, where as the night progresses the person becomes more anxious, not less.

Leaving aside the F vs Y debate, what happens if your father becomes agitated or confused mid flight? Has he been on any flights recently where you could at least gauge his reactions? Will he be on any special medications? I think you need to make sure the disruption on his end will be manageable for his sake as well as other F passengers.

cynicAAl Jul 7, 2009 1:16 pm


Originally Posted by Efrem (Post 12025544)
...a FAT passenger is not (necessarily) also a fat passenger!

clearly, you've never been to Fresno

abmj-jr Jul 7, 2009 1:45 pm


Originally Posted by cynicAAl (Post 12026815)
clearly, you've never been to Fresno

Say, WHAT?? ;)


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