are regional airlines a big scam?
It seems to me that the more we learn about these regional airlines, they're perpetrating a big scam on us. The airlines and entire industry try to convince us that they're "just as safe" as the mainline flights, yet as we learn more about these operations, the pilots are working on fumes and often fail the tests they are given to assess their airworthiness:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/newss...ple-tests.html I'm beginning to think this "race to the bottom" in terms of costs for the airlines has put us all in a giant scam. Thoughts? |
Well, that is just disappointment, because we believe and trust the airlines and they just use us and we fall for the scams.
They're probably only into money! |
I have always refused to fly regional carriers for a few reasons. Service and comfort were always a concern, but safety, for me, is an issue as well. If the mainline carriers ever switch to a domestic/regional international/mainline model, I'll have to decide how I'm going to manage.
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Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 11874450)
I have always refused to fly regional carriers for a few reasons. Service and comfort were always a concern, but safety, for me, is an issue as well. If the mainline carriers ever switch to a domestic/regional international/mainline model, I'll have to decide how I'm going to manage.
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Originally Posted by magiciansampras
(Post 11875422)
Hypothetical: Fantastic job opportunity arises but it requires moving to a city that is only served by regional carriers. Do you not take the job because of the aircraft that fly into that city?
Are you offering? ;) |
Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 11875437)
Are you offering? ;)
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Originally Posted by magiciansampras
(Post 11875439)
Depends. What's your skillset? :p
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My home airport (15-20 minute drive) is only served by regional jets, and the nearest big airport (RDU) is a 90 minute drive away. Driving to CLT would take at least 2.5-3 hours. If the price is significantly better out of RDU, I'll go with that, but it often isn't, leaving me on DL or US Canadairs.
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The big scam I've found is that the flight attendants keep telling me on American Eagle that "every seat is First Class". Well if that's the case...how come the meals are so awful?
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Well...judging by the amount of segments flown by RJs (an RJ might fly 5 segments for 1 mainline segment) and the amount of crashes there are, I'd say they are pretty damn safe. Otherwise I'd have to say that a pilot or flight attendant job for a regional carrier would be a death sentence.
Never once questioned flying a regional, and never felt unsafe. I fully respect and trust the crew on these airlines. |
Originally Posted by pjpoker
(Post 11875700)
Well...judging by the amount of segments flown by RJs (an RJ might fly 5 segments for 1 mainline segment) and the amount of crashes there are, I'd say they are pretty damn safe. Otherwise I'd have to say that a pilot or flight attendant job for a regional carrier would be a death sentence.
Never once questioned flying a regional, and never felt unsafe. I fully respect and trust the crew on these airlines. 1) Is "pretty damn safe" the standard we want or "perfectly safe"? 2) How can you respect crew that continually fails exams? |
In addition, what do you suggest we do when the current mainline pilots are retiring? Surely we can't hire the scum from regional airlines. Maybe we could hire straight from flight school, turning mainline carriers into the same as a regional. Really...you have to start somewhere. Regionals also hire a lot of military pilots. Surely our government trains them poorly.
Don't mean to start a rant, but I feel for these pilots who are almost all highly skilled, some probably more than mainline pilots. |
Originally Posted by pjpoker
(Post 11875738)
In addition, what do you suggest we do when the current mainline pilots are retiring? Surely we can't hire the scum from regional airlines. Maybe we could hire straight from flight school, turning mainline carriers into the same as a regional. Really...you have to start somewhere. Regionals also hire a lot of military pilots. Surely our government trains them poorly.
Don't mean to start a rant, but I feel for these pilots who are almost all highly skilled, some probably more than mainline pilots. |
Originally Posted by magiciansampras
(Post 11875730)
1) Is "pretty damn safe" the standard we want or "perfectly safe"?
Pretty damn safe with continuous improvement with perfectly safe as a goal is going to have to be reasonable enough for me. |
Originally Posted by etch5895
(Post 11875750)
I'd love to see perfectly safe, but that would mean no incidents, for any reason, at any time. In that case, I guess we would have to rule out flights on wide bodied Airbuses for the time being, or flying in the vicinity of storms.
Pretty damn safe with continuous improvement with perfectly safe as a goal is going to have to be reasonable enough for me. |
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