Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Travel&Dining > TravelBuzz
Reload this Page >

why don't the airlines sell assigned bin space to make money?

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

why don't the airlines sell assigned bin space to make money?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 5, 2009, 8:47 am
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Programs: united 1p, usair silver, nz gold, hilton gold, starwood gold
Posts: 509
why don't the airlines sell assigned bin space to make money?

Two recent events have convinced me that the airlines are missing an opportunity to make money by not selling assigned overhead space.

The first was where people going to the back of the plane put their bags in the overheads at the front of the plane so that passengers sitting in the first few rows had to put their bags in the back.

The second was going on a UA flight agent asked for volunteers - not to give up their seats but to check their bags so there would be enough overhead space.

Another alternative would be allow pick up of the bags at the door of the plane as they do with strollers, etc.
sheepherder is offline  
Old Mar 5, 2009, 9:44 am
  #2  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Programs: United MileagePlus Silver, Nexus, Global Entry
Posts: 8,798
Likely because it would be logistically challenging - Presumably 'elite' flyers would get 'free' overhead bin space, so you'd need to know ahead of time how many elite flyers you had a on a flight far enough in advance to allow ma and pa kettle to purchase two slots in the overhead bin.

It would get awkward if an elite flyer purchased a ticket a day before a flight, and then couldn't get overhead bin space because the kettles had already purchased the space in the bins over his head.

A different approach might be to sell the right to board early, i.e. elites can board first, along with those that have paid $20 extra (or whatever). This would have the same effect of 'selling' the overhead bin space, as all the early boarders would fill it up, both elites and paid travelers, however you wouldn't overly inconvenience your elites.
gglave is offline  
Old Mar 5, 2009, 9:45 am
  #3  
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: PDX
Programs: AA LT PLT (3.6+ MM), UA 1K LT Gold, Hilton LT Diamond, Bonvoy Gold.
Posts: 1,662
Please don't encourage the Airlines to nickel and dime their customers!
timfountain is offline  
Old Mar 5, 2009, 10:32 am
  #4  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Programs: United MileagePlus Silver, Nexus, Global Entry
Posts: 8,798
Originally Posted by timfountain
Please don't encourage the Airlines to nickel and dime their customers!
Why not? Every smidgen of nickelling and diming ensures that the base fare stays low. If I decide to go to Hawaii, I want to be able to pay the lowest fare I can...
gglave is offline  
Old Mar 5, 2009, 10:40 am
  #5  
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Anwhere ex-MAN
Programs: A3 *G, BA Silver
Posts: 2,706
Easyjet already does......

It's called speedy boarding. Pay to be at the front of the queue, get first pick of bin space.
MAN Pax is offline  
Old Mar 5, 2009, 11:31 am
  #6  
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: New Jersey
Programs: UA GS 1.7MM, Hyatt Lifetime Glob, Marriott Titanium/Lifetime Platinum
Posts: 1,272
Originally Posted by gglave
A different approach might be to sell the right to board early, i.e. elites can board first, along with those that have paid $20 extra (or whatever). This would have the same effect of 'selling' the overhead bin space, as all the early boarders would fill it up, both elites and paid travelers, however you wouldn't overly inconvenience your elites.
I like this idea, as long as the sequence is 1) Elites/F/J, 2) $20 extra, 3) The Rest.
CopperSteve is offline  
Old Mar 5, 2009, 11:41 am
  #7  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: HOU
Posts: 459
Originally Posted by CopperSteve
I like this idea, as long as the sequence is 1) Elites/F/J, 2) $20 extra, 3) The Rest.
Until it delays boarding as front aislers pay the fee and get in the way of the "others" who are in the back of the bus, and then step over each other as their windowed rowmates board later.
nbs2 is offline  
Old Mar 5, 2009, 11:55 am
  #8  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Right here
Posts: 2,940
Originally Posted by gglave
A different approach might be to sell the right to board early, i.e. elites can board first, along with those that have paid $20 extra (or whatever). This would have the same effect of 'selling' the overhead bin space, as all the early boarders would fill it up, both elites and paid travelers, however you wouldn't overly inconvenience your elites.
WN does this with its 'Business Select' fares, but since there's no assigned seating, the main driver is likely picking a better seat rather than ensuring bin space.
clarence5ybr is offline  
Old Mar 5, 2009, 3:15 pm
  #9  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: NE & SE Asia, N America
Programs: TG ROP Gold, Lifetime OZ Diamond Plus, BA Gold
Posts: 3,105
The logistics of this would be a nightmare. You would have to have a huge number of personnel to be checking all the passengers to be sure that only the people who paid for overhead space were using it. Even if someone didn't pay for it and put their item below the seat, then when the FA isn't looking they could quickly stash it in the overhead. Totally unpractical in my opinion, and the cost to try to enforce it would far outweigh any monetary benefit.
A_Lee is offline  
Old Mar 5, 2009, 5:39 pm
  #10  
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Nashua, NH USA
Programs: Seashore Trolley Museum "flight attendant"
Posts: 1,991
Elites would also reserve bin space, using a different price structure, for example, free.

Add this: After the plane door is closed we would not care who used whatever bin space remains.

Travel tips: http://www.cockam.com/travel.htm
AllanJ is offline  
Old Mar 5, 2009, 7:13 pm
  #11  
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Home: Arlington, VA; Home airports: IAD/DCA/BWI
Programs: Active: AA, UA, DL
Posts: 4,095


You might as well make the space underneath the seat for rent too! How about if you don't want to pay for any bin space? Gate-check will cost $10 (max 5 lbs.), $5 per additional 10 lbs. And that's per flight segment.
Wiirachay is offline  
Old Mar 5, 2009, 9:05 pm
  #12  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 15
Originally Posted by sheepherder
The first was where people going to the back of the plane put their bags in the overheads at the front of the plane so that passengers sitting in the first few rows had to put their bags in the back.
Yeah, this is quite annoying. Why cant people put their bags where they sit??
Lezam is offline  
Old Mar 6, 2009, 2:05 am
  #13  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Programs: BA Silver, EY Gold, HH Diamond, IHG Plat
Posts: 12,210
I was reading on the one of the threads that Ryanair is now going to charge people to use the toilets on board.

I think charging for taking on a handbag would work out easier then charging for space. But another form of income for them could be to advertise on the over head bins.

I refuse to fly these type of LCC's unless the flight is under 1hr.
onlysuites is offline  
Old Mar 6, 2009, 7:11 am
  #14  
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Nashua, NH USA
Programs: Seashore Trolley Museum "flight attendant"
Posts: 1,991
Originally Posted by sheepherder
The first was where people going to the back of the plane put their bags in the overheads at the front of the plane so that passengers sitting in the first few rows had to put their bags in the back.
etc.
I didn't realize people would want to do this and have their bag out of their sight and where someone else could pilfer from it.
AllanJ is offline  
Old Mar 6, 2009, 9:59 am
  #15  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Programs: United MileagePlus Silver, Nexus, Global Entry
Posts: 8,798
Originally Posted by Lezam
Yeah, this is quite annoying. Why cant people put their bags where they sit??
I generally put my bag near me, but I've seen people do this, and I postulate it's for two reasons -

1) It's hard to wrangle a steamer trunk down a narrow aisle to row 30. Much easier to put it above row 8 and be done with it. Makes getting off the plane easier too.

2) There's no guarantee that once you get down to your row that there will be any bin space left. Then you've got to fight your way forward again.
gglave is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.