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Goin-2-AA Jan 12, 2009 9:45 am

Does Airlines make exceptions for the Digital Divide?
 
There are still many folks on this planet...pick your subgroup...that do not have ready access to aa.com. I think of my 90 year old aunt who does not have the skills to operate her PC and lives alone. (God bless her) When she makes reservations she talks to an AA agent and is subject to the booking fee. Obviously this puts a 'tax' on the elderly in this case.

Are there exceptions to the process?

brp Jan 12, 2009 9:47 am

Are you asking "have they ever made an exception" or "are there institutionalized exceptions?"

Yes to the first, No to the second.

Cheers.

3Cforme Jan 12, 2009 10:24 am


Originally Posted by Goin-2-AA (Post 11059955)
Obviously this puts a 'tax' on the elderly in this case.

Ah... call it a tax to dal up the rhetoric.

Perhaps she can no longer mow her own lawn. Is paying somebody to mow the lawn a tax on her?:rolleyes: AA charges a fee for the reservation booking service, just as most travel agents do. Get over it.

trinity_in_texas Jan 12, 2009 10:34 am

Why don't you help her book her flights?

jordyn Jan 12, 2009 10:43 am


Originally Posted by trinity_in_texas (Post 11060252)
Why don't you help her book her flights?

Or teach her how to use the Internet. I hear it's pretty cool, and that even some old people like it.

brp Jan 12, 2009 10:47 am


Originally Posted by jordyn (Post 11060312)
Or teach her how to use the Internet. I hear it's pretty cool, and that even some old people like it.

My in-laws (78 and 77) do many things on the interwebs. Granted it's AOL dial-up, but still... :)

Cheers.

gemac Jan 12, 2009 10:55 am


Originally Posted by trinity_in_texas (Post 11060252)
Why don't you help her book her flights?


I agree. You are her exception.

gabrielbf Jan 12, 2009 12:36 pm


Originally Posted by Goin-2-AA (Post 11059955)
There are still many folks on this planet...pick your subgroup...that do not have ready access to aa.com. I think of my 90 year old aunt who does not have the skills to operate her PC and lives alone. (God bless her) When she makes reservations she talks to an AA agent and is subject to the booking fee. Obviously this puts a 'tax' on the elderly in this case.

Are there exceptions to the process?

Help her book her tickets. That is one of the things young internet-saavy nephews and nieces are there for in the world. ;)

Goin-2-AA Jan 12, 2009 1:00 pm


Originally Posted by Goin-2-AA (Post 11059955)
There are still many folks on this planet...pick your subgroup...that do not have ready access to aa.com. I think of my 90 year old aunt who does not have the skills to operate her PC and lives alone. (God bless her) When she makes reservations she talks to an AA agent and is subject to the booking fee. Obviously this puts a 'tax' on the elderly in this case.

Are there exceptions to the process?

Well....that was refreshing! Let's try again. Another subgroup. How about the poor ? the blind? the elderly without such a nice nephew? or a Frontier Web page designer?

She does not mow her lawn...never did. What a stupid reference! But I noticed the source so that piece did not shock me.

Perhaps Obama will fix this.

Steph3n Jan 12, 2009 1:23 pm


Originally Posted by Goin-2-AA (Post 11061316)

Perhaps Obama will fix this.

Yes just like he will make AA into Emirates F quality in Y.....

benzguy80 Jan 12, 2009 1:39 pm

there are problems that government should not try to solve?! :rolleyes:

ralfp Jan 12, 2009 1:50 pm


Originally Posted by Goin-2-AA (Post 11059955)
There are still many folks on this planet...pick your subgroup...that do not have ready access to aa.com. I think of my 90 year old aunt who does not have the skills to operate her PC and lives alone. (God bless her) When she makes reservations she talks to an AA agent and is subject to the booking fee. Obviously this puts a 'tax' on the elderly in this case.

No. Unless she flies more than once per month, it's a subsidy. The savings on net access more than pays for the booking fee.

trinity_in_texas Jan 12, 2009 1:55 pm


Originally Posted by Goin-2-AA (Post 11061316)
Well....that was refreshing! Let's try again. Another subgroup. How about the poor ? the blind? the elderly without such a nice nephew? or a Frontier Web page designer?

She does not mow her lawn...never did. What a stupid reference! But I noticed the source so that piece did not shock me.

Perhaps Obama will fix this.


The poor? Public Access at the Library - sides where is the money for the flight comin' from?
The blind? Assitant, phone, braille keyboard w/ voice computer thinger..The elderly? Phone or friend?

Point is, we didn't always have internet and I still use the phone at times. I don't know a single person who doesn't have a friend or family member who is unwilling to help.
Or maybe you are just being silly. :)

cparekh Jan 12, 2009 3:27 pm

Yes. it absolutely is, and it's not just AA. It's a pricing scheme called second-degree price discrimination. You know it as a senior citizen discount or a student discount. On AA, you know it as a lower price if you are willing to book two-weeks in advance or stay Saturday night. The point is that AA (or any business) will work very hard to extract as much money as possible from those willing to pay it. As AA sees it, I (net savvy) am not willing to pay, while your aunt is (or she could find some way not to). Technology has not raised the price for your aunt, it has simply lowered overall cost to all passengers by finding a way to differentiate between two levels of willingness to pay.

I guarantee you that as soon as most (or even many) people refuse to book AA because of the fee, that fee would go away because it would be an ineffective way to extract additional revenue from those willing to pay it.

Stefferdoos Jan 12, 2009 3:42 pm


Originally Posted by jordyn (Post 11060312)
Or teach her how to use the Internet. I hear it's pretty cool, and that even some old people like it.

Heck, my 80 some year old grandmother found her new husband on the internet.


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