Well, you shouldn't blind people.;)

I dress for comfort not for others fashion sense. I have good hygiene so I don't bother them with stink...I am quiet so I don't bother them with noise...and I keep my hands and stuff to myself.

To fashion snobs: Mind your own damn business :)

^^^

I fully support a ban on wearing bright lights, wearing clothes with long pointy objects attached, or carrying sprayers of caustic substances. Other than that, I am not sure how you are supposed to blind someone! :P

I can't believe there is an entire thread on this. I wear whatever I have on already for what I have been doing previous to my flight or what I have planned when I arrive. Long haul international is slightly different but then I just dress in normal, comfortable, casual clothing.

Not really, people in F does not dress somewhat presentable. It is all about where were they coming from before they got on the plane. They dress business like clothing maybe they just came from a meeting, or once off the plane they are onto a meeting.

Also, there are really no way to tell if someone dress really causal if they are really paying for F or not. I have seen young college kids dress like a hippie flying in F, did anyone care ? No. If yes you are just discriminating people. FA just served him like any other pax.

Hopefully the thing you have been doing previous to your flight is not swimming...:p

I boarded a Pan Am flight SYD-HNL-LAX many moons ago in a first class seat. After I was seated I began to read my ticket jacket (orange background). On the back of it was printed examples of acceptable dress code. I checked myself over and found that I did not fit any of the examples so I enquired of the Stewardess if it was OK. She looked at my ticket and appologized saying that I had been given the wrong ticket jacket which was only for use by Pan Am non-revs.

When I flew the concordes the dresscode was obviously not enforced.

Some in very short leather skirts with lap dogs, Some in funky hippie clothes while others in pin stripes and a eau de funeral parlor about them. I had one of the latter assigned a seat next to me and when he observed my tacky outdoor work sweater and jeans asked to have his seat moved.

So the point of this anecdote is that when you make assumptions about people based on how they dress, we laugh at them; when they make assumptions about you based on how you dress, we still laugh at them.

I was referring to : Maybe I should be worried about going deaf?

No, I got what you were referring to. I also got the ;) but thought it would be funny to riff on literally blinding people. :)

Humor - you win some, you lose some, and *LOL* I lose more than most, but you gotta keep knocking those rocks together if you want to discover fire. Or something like that :)

This is a tough crowd.;)

Try the fish :)

First Class Attire/Etiquette
 

New to this site and wanted to throw a topic out there concerning dress/attire/etiquette in first class.

I travel a decent amount for business and pleasure and have been DL Silver for a couple of years and hit GM a couple of months back. I frequently get bumped up to F and was wondering if other first class flyers ever get annoyed by someone who is underdressed? (Not sure if there are any Curb Your Enthusiasm fans out there, but the show touched on this topic a week or two ago)

I'm a younger member of the biz traveler public and work in the snowboard industry, so I'm usually dressed fairly casual, but nice.

Since I'll be traveling a lot this fall and have some F seats confirmed, I would also like to ask if anyone out there has any general etiquette tips for the F cabin?

Yes, it is the same as coach.

In the U.S., come as you are.

All I ask is that you don't wear your PJs to board the airplane and do you really need to take your own full size pillow for a 2.5 hr flight?

You don't have to look like you stepped out of the pages of GQ or your fav fashion mag but I have found that if your are dressed half-way descent you tend to get better service. Run of the mill chinos and a polo are fairly comfortable and are usually considered biz casual.

If you feel under-dressed then maybe your are. Spruce it up a bit to make yourself feel a little better. I am not one to get gussied up either and I do prefer comfort of style.




(The gate area isn't a play ground or romper room but that is another subject)

I am most commonly in jeans (nice jeans) and an oxford cloth shirt.

Having slept on the ATL floor, I come dressed for the context.

Actually, its also appropriate dress for the refreshments served... peanuts and cheap beer... see: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...gh-mojito.html :D

As for etiquette... Rule no. 1, do not ask the FA for both of the only two bottles of the Glenlivet that DL graciously provides for the FC cart. :D:D

seen people in Business class
 

dressed like slobs; sad to go in public with dirty PJ's and bedroom slippers.:confused:

it's a free country, dress however way you want, within reason. I like to go with a nice looking t-shirt, slacks, and sneakers, and sometimes a windbreaker jacket. Same outfit I wear for intl F, domestic F. Just dress sensibly and you'll be fine.

Try not to smell too bad, and leave a little bit of booze for the next guy.

While in general, I'm a big fan of "wear whatever you feel like and who cares" if you're young enough you've got some concerns about THAT part, wearing things that are a little more conservative and formal than you'd otherwise be inclined to is a good way to look a bit older.

Why on Earth would you want to look a bit older? You'll have plenty of time for that later in life.

'twas handy, long long ago, for reducing the odds of getting carded.

Other than that, I can't see why either, but try lacking a time machine there's not much way to argue with my 17 year old self about it :)

Not always.

School uniforms are conservative and formal, and someone who is wearing them would not be mistaken for a graduate. What is the policy of private and public schools about wearing their uniform out of school?

Good point. I'd add a "usually" to the conservative and formal in that case, but ... yeah.

Very little idea on that, although I thought one of the excuses for uniforms at public schools in places like SoCal was to avoid attracting gang attention on the way to and from.

More generally, the uniforms (both public and private) I've seen have not generally been confusible with something anyone would wear voluntarily, either formal or casual. It strikes me that that the only time that's likely to be an issue when traveling by air is for a school trip... and if you're on a school trip in J or F... well... dang, that's one posh school.

It's a funny twist of history that Karl Marx' "dictatorship of the proletariate" and the "classless society" are so profoundly expressed in US American dresscodes and have become one of the country's best cultural export articles.
From Levi's via Nike to Ed Hardy ... :mad:

Unaesthetically dressed guests should be thrown out of any first class or real luxury hotel ...

Every stupid discotheque does it, but airlines and hotels didn't have the guts to enforce dresscodes. I am sure it was a mistake in the long term.

my wife and i, dressed in some of our finest casual blue jeans were blocked by the doorman at the Paris Ritz. all we wanted to do was go to the gift shop to buy calendars.

OK, good example.

If US domestic F were luxurious, i could see this, but....

I'm glad you don't ask for the two Glenlivets, that improves my odds of getting them. Otherwise we can fly AF where huge litre bottles of Glenlivet are their standard and they pour very generously.

I always make sure to wear white tie and my monocle when traveling by airship.

I don't know when the last time you went out to discotheque's was, but enforcement of a "dress code" as you think of it is a thing of the past. Most of the "coolest" places now don't want people who look well dressed in the FT sense of the word, and they certainly don't require it. I see MUC as one of your locations...for example, go survey the crowd at any random night at the P1.

P1 has a relatively unsophisticated crowd. Too much Ed Hardy and FC Bayern.

To give you a quick idea of more sophisticated places that enforce a silent "dress code":

Costes in Paris

Sheraton Diana Majestic in Milan

Hotel de Paris (except in August) and Jimmy'z in Monaco

I wouldn't hold those places out as the norm. P1 is still one of the hardest doors in Munich, and for that matter I don't recall ever seeing anyone there in Ed Hardy or a football jersey. Costes doesn't really have a door policy and most of the people dressing up are older and or phonies. Hotel de Paris and Jimmy'z is a different story as Monaco in general is all about dressing up and showing off, though I am not sure I would conflate that with "sophistication." This is coming from someone who wears a dress shirt and jacket de rigeur whenever I go out...it is no longer the norm and no one would bar you from entering hotel costes if you dressed down.

It's not a matter of guts, it's a matter of what makes them the most money, and/or what's required of them as a common carrier. If airlines could make more money enforcing a dress code, and assuming they're allowed to, then they would do so. That they don't is a pretty clear sign either (A) they would lose money by doing so, or (B) they aren't allowed to.

Nightclubs/discotheques are entertainment venues, not transportation, nor do they have any common carrier obligations, nor is there a risk of someone showing up with prepaid tickets and then having to deal with IDB because they're inadequately dressed. You're comparing apples and ball bearings.

Nightclubs are in the business of selling an "experience" or a "scene." There's a business benefit to them in controlling the "quality" of the people they let in. People say, "I want to go to "club of the moment" because of the scene, the experience, or because its the exclusive place to be seen."

Airlines are in the business of providing transportation. People don't say, "I want to fly Air France because it makes me feel like I'm part of something exclusive." They fly AF because of the price, the schedule, the non-stop route, the loyalty program, or some other tangible benefit.

I would also argue that the nightclub goer seeks a "shared" experience, and hence, the nattiness of the fellow guests may be an important component of that. I personally, have no desire to share anything with other people on an airplane, except maybe a little shared conversation.

If I were riding First Class on a long-haul flight then I will wear my usual sweats, t-shirt, and sneakers. Of course I will have a sweater with me just in case it gets too cold.

If I were riding FC on a domestic flight then I would wear whatever I would wear when I'm in the back as well.