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Originally Posted by sbm12
(Post 10793361)
But does the 18-22% actually go to the person bringing the food up to you? If it does, that's great. If it does not and it goes to the bottom line of the hotel, does it really count? The proble is that it is hard to know where the money is actually going.
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22% is it - no more.
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I might shed some light on this, I set up databases for hotel food services. This is not always the case, but the following is what most likely happens. If there is a delivery charge (usually a per trip charge which is very common at resorts and nickle and dimeing 4 and 5 stars) that goes to the house. The service charge then goes to the room service staff (Room service normally pools tips and may have to tip out a bartender as well). If there is not a delivery charge, but just a service charge, it may be that the house takes a percentage of the tip (a common one is 18% with 15% going to the server and 3% to the house). Their is no hard and fast rule, but always read the guest check closely.
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I must say, I always add a tip on top of the "room service gratuity" already on the bill. Having worked in the service industry, I doubt the server is getting rich off my extra 10%.
I just wonder how much of that the server is actually taking home...I suppose I should start asking. |
Originally Posted by chumbawumba
(Post 10804830)
Personally, tipping should not be.
I expect good service, and I expect to know the price in advanced. Adding for the plate (done in Italy) or service on top of the price makes me order less next time. FWIW, most waiters and waitesses here in NYC loathe it when Europeans sit at their tables. They know they'll get a $2 tip on a $100 check. |
Originally Posted by wiredboy10003
(Post 10832814)
FWIW, most waiters and waitesses here in NYC loathe it when Europeans sit at their tables. They know they'll get a $2 tip on a $100 check.
It's a simple rule, tip appropriate to the country/culture you are in! |
The last time I ordered room service (years ago), the hotel had a mandatory gratuity, and a line on the check for additinal gratuity. I felt that 22% was enough and did not add any additional. After taking the check and starting to walk back to the elevator, the courier loudly said "f*ing stiff" 'under his breath'.
Personally I would never look down on anyone for "only" leaving 22%, but clearly, hotel staffs expect more. |
Originally Posted by ajax
(Post 10803158)
I never add a tip when someone has done it for me, especially in addition to a "service charge".
Originally Posted by underpressure
(Post 10804321)
This isn't room service, It is a buffet, they get nothing else from me.
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Considering I'm not expense accounting these outrageous in room dining charges the last time through LHR T5 I visited the M+S Simply Food on the arrivals level and bought myself a nice cold cut spread plus a bottle of Shiraz. Walked back to my room in the Sofitel and ate and drank totally guilt free in my room.:cool:
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Originally Posted by chumbawumba
(Post 10804830)
Living in Europe, I usually give 10% or less in restaurants.
I do not tip hotel rooms or airport lounges. Personally, tipping should not be. I expect good service, and I expect to know the price in advanced. Adding for the plate (done in Italy) or service on top of the price makes me order less next time. |
Originally Posted by zitsky
(Post 10788282)
However, I've also appreciate good service. I will tip above and beyond the suggested tip for staff that bring my room service order right away, make sure the food is hot, or bring everything in one of those nice combination food warmers/tables on wheels. I'm addicted to those. :)
I usually have a simple policy: if a service charge is added, I don't tip. In one particular Korean hotel they even had a sign at the front desk: "To avoid individual tipping we charge 10% service fee." What else should the service fee be for if not to pay for the service staff? HTB. |
What about takeout from a restaurant? I've been asking around about this lately to get some feedback. I have to go pick it up, bring it to my house, unpack it, clean up my mess, refill my drinks, lay out my silverware, etc.. What did they do? Put it in a bag and take my money? Perhaps if you could take the server home with you to perform the services you get at a restaurant and then they could find their way back by themselves, I would consider it.
It's almost as ridiculous as tipping a barista. |
You think that's bad!
I tried to order takeout in Virginia, it was one of those 'delivers from multiple restaurants' deals. The bill I was presented with listed out the additions of sales tax, city tax, delivery fee, convenience fee, fuel surcharge, packaging fee, mandatory gratuity, and THEN had an item asking about a tip! I was stunned. Delivery fee was to the delivery company, I guess. Convenience fee was.... I have no idea what that was about! Maybe to the restaurant for packaging it up? Fuel surcharge, oh boy. Packaging fee was apparently for the styrofoam plate, napkin, and plastic utensils that are provided. Mandatory gratuity to the driver (maybe), and then tip for the magic fairies. It more than doubled the price of my $15 meal before the suggested 'tip'. I gave up at that point. |
Originally Posted by dustinp
(Post 10840273)
What about takeout from a restaurant? I've been asking around about this lately to get some feedback. I have to go pick it up, bring it to my house, unpack it, clean up my mess, refill my drinks, lay out my silverware, etc.. What did they do? Put it in a bag and take my money? Perhaps if you could take the server home with you to perform the services you get at a restaurant and then they could find their way back by themselves, I would consider it.
It's almost as ridiculous as tipping a barista. |
Originally Posted by dustinp
(Post 10840273)
What about takeout from a restaurant?... What did they do? Put it in a bag and take my money?...
Interesting that when you pay with cash the question just doesn't arise. |
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