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fs2k2isfun Sep 29, 2008 3:42 pm

Changes to Fuel Surcharges
 
I have heard that various airlines (NH and SQ) are both upping their fuel surcharges on Oct 1. I was thinking it would be a good idea for FTers to compile a list of fuel charges various airlines charge and when they change, so as to better time the purchase of flights. I am willing to compile it here, but need the info.

Anyone interested?

ozstamps Oct 15, 2008 10:56 am

Have any major Global carriers REDUCED fuel surcharges since Oct 1?
 
I do not read all the Forums so am not up to speed with it, industry wide. :)

Every ticket we book SYD-USA has about $500 or $600 glued on top of base ticket price, and that has escalated like mad in the past year or so.

Each month or two United would up the ante on fuel taxes.

Now oil has dropped like a stone in recent weeks, have any large carriers dropped some surcharges, and if so - by how much by please?

Glen

tom911 Oct 15, 2008 11:04 am

There's been some limited cuts according to an article in today's USA Today.
Airlines reduce fuel fees on overseas flights

rustyr Oct 15, 2008 11:17 am

BA/VS
 
Virgin announced yesterday afternoon and British Airways followed suit. Both effective midnite today. Neither airline has lowered surcharge for its premium passengers. This is from travelmole.com UK edition so I don't know if it works for originatiing in other countries: BA World Traveler L13 less on longer sectors and L10 on shorter;World Travler Plus L6.5 long sectors/L5 short . The difference btw long-short haul according to article more/less than 9 hrs. Meanwhile, Virgin economy passengers will pay L10 less on short sectors and L13 on long;Premium economy L5 less on short/L6.5 long. A spokesman for Virgin said "Upper Class passengers pay more as their space and baggage allowances onboard are much greater." That means for Virgin the fuel charges for short sectors will be L68-Economy and L83 for Premium Economy, but remain L98 UC. Longer sectors will be L96,L114.50 and L133 respectively. I tried to download this article but afraid you will ave to signup in order to retrieve it.

seanthepilot Oct 15, 2008 11:21 am

Great thread, ozstamps. I hope it can become a good resource.

Air Canada has dropped the fuel surcharge for North American itineraries... yet to do the same for International tickets.

ozstamps Oct 15, 2008 12:34 pm


Originally Posted by tom911 (Post 10524238)
There's been some limited cuts according to an article in today's USA Today.

Airlines reduce fuel fees on overseas flights

They seem to be rebating surcharges on SOME Europe flights to the USA, but not others on the same carrier to other USA cities!

When they slapped them ON, it applied to EVERY flight that crossed the Atlantic.
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Mr. Roboto Oct 15, 2008 1:05 pm

LX - Swiss
 
JFK-TLV one-way fuel surcharge was USD250 until Oct. 2nd. On Oct 3rd, it dropped to USD200.

Carolinian Oct 15, 2008 1:31 pm

European LCC Sky Europe eliminated fuel surcharges completely some months ago. Their CEO wrote in their magazine that they were confusing to customers and not a fair way to do business. Hooray for them. Another larger LCC, Ryanair, refused to impose them in the first place.

While some LCC's have long had annoying fees, it looks like they are better for the customer on this very assinine fee than the European legacies.

JOUY31 Oct 15, 2008 1:58 pm

For a list of some current fuel surcharges, see here

TheCrackedJack Oct 15, 2008 1:58 pm

I don't know, how many of them were able to recover from their losses this quickly? Fuel going down doesn't suddenly erase all the debt, losses, and expenses the airlines have incurred.

ozstamps Oct 15, 2008 8:43 pm

With oil dropping to $US75 today - half what it was quite recently, near all the fuel surcharges should HALVE?

nerd Oct 15, 2008 9:25 pm


Originally Posted by ozstamps (Post 10527673)
With oil dropping to $US75 today - half what it was quite recently, near all the fuel surcharges should HALVE?

Nope - you price it at whatever the market will bear.

Disguising part of the ticket price as a fuel surcharge is simply a gimmick...

Eastbay1K Oct 15, 2008 9:39 pm

LAN has a table

http://plane.lan.com/about_us/notici...s.html#calculo

RustyC Oct 15, 2008 9:43 pm

AA had a spot sale from ATL to some Central American cities with $58 each way base and surcharges dropped, making total $185-205 RT a-i.

Of course, distance-wise it's closer to those places than parts of the west coast.

I think if airlines have to fill seats they'll have to drive down the all-in price one way or the other. There's still a lot of cartel-like behavior on routes without LCC competition where the idea is to limit supply and try to have that keep up airfares at high levels. Legacy airlines need a better plan than that for the long term.

mlbcard Oct 15, 2008 10:16 pm

So, how much in fuel (let's say today's $75 price) does it take to carry an average passenger say on a TATL flight? Does it match what the fuel surcharges are for that flight?


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