![]() |
Arrive before you leave
What scheduled flights arrive at a time before they depart (via the magic of time change.)
I can think of some like SBN-ORD that do it by flying a short distance across a time zone boundary. Then there are plenty of Eastbound flights that cross the international dateline. Are there any westbound flights that cross multiple time zones to arrive 'before' departure? |
When I flew from Seoul many moons ago I landed before I departed.
|
Some of the flights from Auckland and Sydney land the day before they depart. TN's SYD-PPT and AKL-PPT services and NZ's AKL-APW (DJ's SYD-APW leaves late enough from SYD to arrive at 1:20 a.m. the same day into APW) flights come to mind, but there are others to Pacific islands. The former AC SYD-HNL flight also landed the day before it departed.
-m |
I've done Hong Kong/LA and Beijing/LA a number of times where we've arrived before we left.
|
I think the OP is looking for WESTBOUND flights that land before taking off.
I cannot think of any-only eastbound. |
The westbound flights you ask about would have to be far enough north or south on the earth so that timezones are less than a jet can fly in an hour (and the the jetstream would likely make it worse!). I tried Greenland and in an admittedly inexhaustive effort, couldn't find anything. Anyone else got any other ideas?
|
Originally Posted by RichardInSF
(Post 10025227)
The westbound flights you ask about would have to be far enough north or south on the earth so that timezones are less than a jet can fly in an hour (and the the jetstream would likely make it worse!). I tried Greenland and in an admittedly inexhaustive effort, couldn't find anything. Anyone else got any other ideas?
|
Maybe not what you had in mind, but I've done DTW-ORD and arrived a few minutes before departure. :)
|
Originally Posted by RichardInSF
(Post 10025227)
The westbound flights you ask about would have to be far enough north or south on the earth so that timezones are less than a jet can fly in an hour (and the the jetstream would likely make it worse!). I tried Greenland and in an admittedly inexhaustive effort, couldn't find anything. Anyone else got any other ideas?
phx-las during standard time. SWA puts it as 1 hour gate to gate (but no elapsed time), so you must land before take off. |
I tend to drive it instead of fly it, but flights from Atlanta to Birmingham arrives in under an hour, with a time zone change in there.
|
Taipei SFO 14 hrs on the plane and you get there before you left
|
Originally Posted by merrickdb
(Post 10025216)
Some of the flights from Auckland and Sydney land the day before they depart.
Also AKL-PPT works fine !! |
AY 641
1 August HEL 13:30 ARN 13:25 SK 733 1 August LED 17:20 ARN 16:45 TP 765 1 August SVQ 13:00 LIS 12:55 |
Plenty of flights, that go back one timezone usually (non peak hours anyway) involve landing before you took off. AMS/BRU/CDG-LHR for example. Of course, by gate to gate airline timetable they're not.
Per the OP's request of westbound covering multiple timezones, I can't think of any current flights. Besides Concorde, all I can think of, historically, was back in the 80's when Europe to Japan used to involve routing via ANC and I seem to remember some of those arrived there for refuelling before takeoff time with the -9/-10 hours time difference. |
On the other side of the Atlantic....
UA 7217
1 August SBN 5:35 ORD 5:20 LA 931 1 December MDZ 13:00 SCL 12:55 |
Originally Posted by Mr. Vker
(Post 10025282)
I found one. Its a short flight across one time zone, so it doesn't involve several zones.
LAS-LAX during standard time. SWA puts it as 1 hour gate to gate (but no elapsed time), so you must land before take off. |
Originally Posted by Mr. Vker
(Post 10025222)
I think the OP is looking for WESTBOUND flights that land before taking off.
I cannot think of any-only eastbound. |
China Southern flight from Urumqi to Almaty, Kazakhstan leaves at 18:40 and arrives at 18:20, with a flight time of 1:40, so this spans two timezones. Do I get a prize? ;)
Chris |
Also, Aeroflot-Nord offers a flight from Murmansk, Russia to Tromso, Norway that takes two hours and arrives at the same time as it departs. :D
Chris |
Man, I'm on a roll now. Wideroe Airlines flies from Murmansk, Russia to Kirkenes, Norway, departing at 16:35 and arriving at 15:20, for a 45 minute flight, changing two time zones.
Chris |
Saved the best for last. China Southern flies from Vladivostok, Russia to Harbin, China in 1 hour, surpassing 3 time zones.
Depart: 20:30 Arrive: 18:30 And I retire.:D Chris |
Originally Posted by Pat89339
(Post 10025470)
:confused: LAS (Las Vegas, Nevada) and LAX (Los Angeles, California) are both in the same time zone--Pacific.
|
Another one, LXA (Lhasa) - KTM (Kathmandu) depart 11:00, arrives 10:00 travelling from GMT+8 to GMT+5:45 with a flight time of 1:15.
|
UA 7217 leaves South Bend (SBN) at 5:35A, arrives in ORD at 5:20.
|
Along those lines, I recall reading about the FA who was trying to explain to a naive passenger how it was possible to arrive before you leave. The FA patiently explained about time zones and the rotation of the earth, however the passenger just wasn't getting it. Finally, the FA said, "we go really fast!" The passenger said, "oh," and returned to combing through the Skymall catalogue for "must haves." :)
|
Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 10028235)
The FA patiently explained about time zones and the rotation of the earth, however the passenger just wasn't getting it.
|
CX836 HKG-YVR. Departs HKG around midnight and then arrives YVR the evening on the day before departure.
|
Pretty much any flight from the western pacific and Asia to HNL does this.
ICN-ORD comes close -- depending on time of year, the flight only takes about 40 minutes!:D |
I did the SIN-LAX on stop on SQ in 2006.. departed a bit late like 5:00PM and arrived early at 3:45 the same day
Also I think we had a serious tail wind too.. also remember pretty strong turbulance over Japan- to the point it woke me up and being from CA i thought it was an earthquake ..woke up all confused and searching for my desk to get under then realized where I was.. and went back to sleep and enjoyed the movement |
Originally Posted by L Dude 7
(Post 10025160)
What scheduled flights arrive at a time before they depart (via the magic of time change.)
I can think of some like SBN-ORD that do it by flying a short distance across a time zone boundary. Then there are plenty of Eastbound flights that cross the international dateline. Are there any westbound flights that cross multiple time zones to arrive 'before' departure? A westbound flight couldn't do it unless it was pretty close to a pole. |
Originally Posted by Mr. Vker
(Post 10025282)
I found one. Its a short flight across one time zone, so it doesn't involve several zones.
phx-las during standard time. SWA puts it as 1 hour gate to gate (but no elapsed time), so you must land before take off. It occurs to me one other place you probably could do it. Fly out of western China to someplace nearby. China is all on one time zone, any short hop from a city on the western edge is going to pick up several hours. |
Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 10028235)
Along those lines, I recall reading about the FA who was trying to explain to a naive passenger how it was possible to arrive before you leave. The FA patiently explained about time zones and the rotation of the earth, however the passenger just wasn't getting it. Finally, the FA said, "we go really fast!" The passenger said, "oh," and returned to combing through the Skymall catalogue for "must haves." :)
I was trying to use the multi-city routing tool on a flight whose first leg was a transpac. The engine would not allow me to specify a departure time for the second flight earlier than the first flight. I was pointing this out as a flaw in the system and they couldn't understand that anything was wrong. |
How about arriving the same time you leave? WN 3316 leaves LBB (Lubbock, TX) at 9:20 a.m. and arrives in ELP (El Paso, TX) at 9:20 a.m.
|
Originally Posted by Finite Elephant
(Post 10033089)
Pretty much any flight from the western pacific and Asia to HNL does this.
ICN-ORD comes close -- depending on time of year, the flight only takes about 40 minutes!:D |
Originally Posted by BLI-Flyer
(Post 10033595)
How about arriving the same time you leave? WN 3316 leaves LBB (Lubbock, TX) at 9:20 a.m. and arrives in ELP (El Paso, TX) at 9:20 a.m.
|
The new SYD-EZE service which starts this November has a very unusual departure /arrival time;
Qantas Airways Flights 17 Departs: 10:35 Kingsford Smith (SYD) Arrives: 10:35 Ministro Pistarini (EZE) |
I once flew four flights, all of which took off on a Tuesday.
One took off and landed in the morning on Tuesday. The other three took off at night. Of those, one landed on Monday, one on Tuesday, and one on Wednesday. |
Last year I flew SYD-HNL-YVR and landed in YVR at the exact same time and day (to the minute) as we left SYD.
|
| All times are GMT -6. The time now is 2:57 pm. |
This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.