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Deconstructing The Airport
DECONSTRUCTING THE AIRPORT is a video from a New Yorker Magazine conference held in May this year.
In the video Malcolm Gladwell introduces Paco Underhill who is an architectural expert on retail space human factors design. Mr. Gladwell provides keen insight on how to remake air travel for the twenty-first century. Paco Underhill is the architectural analog to what we in the computer industry call Human Factors or Human Computer Interaction (HCI). Basically, Mr Underhill's job is to make spaces like airports more usable and human friendly. WATCH THIS VIDEO! All of the videos from this New Yorker conference are excellent and available free on iTunes (look for podcasts). A couple of easy to remember bits of information from Mr Underhill:
Mr Underhill follows up with two big questions:
Mr Underhill also talks about the architectural information architecture needed for effective communications and observation in airports. Understand that different airport constituencies have different needs. Passengers, Airlines, Security, vendors, etc. Basic stuff like where is my gate, baggage claim, waiting area? Why do airports like Dublin have uncomfortable metal chairs? (I've been to Dublin and those chairs were more comfortable than padded chairs in some US airports.) Great video. I really enjoyed it and wish all airport, airline, and security administrators would give it a view and really think about what Underhill is saying. |
Don't really know why the airplane bathrooms need to be separate. They only serve 1 passenger at a time...and there aren't very many of them to begin with.
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Just about all airports were constructed before 9/11 and when the number of paxs traveling was much smaller, particularly in the US.
Unfortunately, given the state of this industry, many airports now or soon be suffering from lower revenues as airlines cut flights, and inability to expand facilities (LGA, DCA) won't allow this to be remedied anytime soon. As far as in flight, getting separate lavs is just impossible when on many narrowbodies there is only three lavs to begin with. |
The women's vs. men's disparity has been talked about for years in architectural circles and is a common problem for most any public facility, but is particularly acute in facilities where usage is high (airports), usage tends to peak a certain times (stadia) or places that used to have a higher proportion of men but now are more equal (stadia and airports).
Current building codes in the U.S. require a higher number of fixtures for women than men, but only do so for certain types of buildings (among them: stadia, night clubs, places of worship). Unfortunately, airports are not one of those types, this development is relatively recent and there is no requirement to retrofit (although a sizable renovation would require an upgrade). |
is anyone else getting a really choppy video stream, almost unwatchable?
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Originally Posted by runarut
(Post 10003324)
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Mr Underhill follows up with two big questions:
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Most domestic U.S. F cabins have a single lav. Separate M and F lavs would require at least one of:
1. Take space away from galley and/or seats for another. 2. Share lavs with coach pax. (Practical only if there's at least one coach lav forward.) 3. Take a lav away from coach pax. (Ditto.) None of these is going to fly. Besides, shared facilities maximize throughput because of random fluctuations leading to more M or F usage at a particular moment. If they were dedicated to one group or the other, a queue could build up for one lav while the other was idle. (I, M, share my home lav with an F. We don't have a problem with it. I suspect most other FTers also share with the opposite sex, or did while growing up.) |
Originally Posted by newyorkgeorge
(Post 10007642)
Just about all airports were constructed before 9/11 and when the number of paxs traveling was much smaller, particularly in the US.
Unfortunately, given the state of this industry, many airports now or soon be suffering from lower revenues as airlines cut flights, and inability to expand facilities (LGA, DCA) won't allow this to be remedied anytime soon. As far as in flight, getting separate lavs is just impossible when on many narrowbodies there is only three lavs to begin with. Slowly, I suspect will continue to see airports being redesigned or retrofitted to shift the food and beverage from landside to airside. |
As long as we are on the subject...
Please give me a stall (in the airport) that's big enough to take my rollaboard and computer bag into! What, I'm going to leave my bags out in the main room? Not hardly... I feel badly when I use a handicapped stall, but in many cases it's the only option. Or, bring back lockers inside the sterile area. Now, let me get this straight - everybody is screened airside but you can't use a locker because someone may put something that shouldn't be in the sterile area in the locker? Grrrrr. RFTraveler :confused: |
Originally Posted by Efrem
(Post 10009752)
I, M, share my home lav with an F. We don't have a problem with it. I suspect most other FTers also share with the opposite sex, or did while growing up.
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M, F, and T lavatories
In Thailand, there is now growing demand to provide separate lavatories in schools for transgenders, ie boys who think of themselves as girls, dress and act like girls. So, separate lavs on planes might mean having to provide for transgenders, as least on Thai Airways.
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Originally Posted by RFTraveler
(Post 10013002)
As long as we are on the subject...
Please give me a stall (in the airport) that's big enough to take my rollaboard and computer bag into! What, I'm going to leave my bags out in the main room? Not hardly... I feel badly when I use a handicapped stall, but in many cases it's the only option. |
Originally Posted by mbstone
(Post 10015454)
Don't forget the power receptacle and wi-fi service....
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Originally Posted by tangoll
(Post 10015079)
In Thailand, there is now growing demand to provide separate lavatories in schools for transgenders, ie boys who think of themselves as girls, dress and act like girls. So, separate lavs on planes might mean having to provide for transgenders, as least on Thai Airways.
First, it is transgender, not transgenders. Second and more importantly a transgender person is not one who thinks of themselves as the opposite sex, they are a person trapped in the body of the opposite sex. (i.e. male in a female body, female in a male body). They dress according to who they are (i.e. a female even though we see a male body). I have many friends who are transgender, none of them would say they act like girls/boys - they would say they are girls/boys (well male/female actually as they are past puberty and no longer a girl or boy) |
Originally Posted by Mr H
(Post 10013030)
Indeed - never seen why we need separate M and F loos in public anyway.
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