Near-Disaster from Bag Falling from Overhead Bin
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I hope they are more stringently adhered too but I will believe it when I see it. With the new fees people will be trying to carry everything and arguing about not checking things. I forsee real unpleasantness, it is just the people who are most likely to be bringing two 28 inch carryons for a 4 day trip that wont want to check them.
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I'm glad that both mother and child are okay (and very scary about the baby). I really think it's important for FAs to be proactive, not in storing the bags themselves -- they're not stevedores -- but in telling pax who have brought rock-filled steamer trunks that they must gate check them. Of course, with the new charges for checked bags, I predict many nasty confrontations with the Gomers and Kettles who are willing to check their common sense, but not their bags, in the interest of saving $15.
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I think you've got that backwards - the infrequent flyers are likely to still expect to check bags, and to pack full-sized suitcases that couldn't be carry-ons. It's the "I'm so important because I'm elite" types who try to board with the laptop bag, roll-aboard and 3 other "personal items" - they know the carry-on game, and try to use to their advantage. They're also most likely to know about the checked-bag fee, which an infrequent traveler may not learn about until they check in.
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I think you've got that backwards - the infrequent flyers are likely to still expect to check bags, and to pack full-sized suitcases that couldn't be carry-ons. It's the "I'm so important because I'm elite" types who try to board with the laptop bag, roll-aboard and 3 other "personal items" - they know the carry-on game, and try to use to their advantage. They're also most likely to know about the checked-bag fee, which an infrequent traveler may not learn about until they check in.
It's the Gomers and the Kettles that I see bringing on odd-sized and ill-fitting carryons and, judging from the news, they're the ones who seem all bent out of shape over the $15 fee.
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I have seen people lose control of a bag while loading it in the overhead, but I have personally experienced another, equally dangerous phenomenon...
While removing a Rollaboard (which was placed wheels-in) from and the bin, the force with which it was being pulled caused other adjacent bags to come flying out and thus hitting multiple people. Very scary.
While removing a Rollaboard (which was placed wheels-in) from and the bin, the force with which it was being pulled caused other adjacent bags to come flying out and thus hitting multiple people. Very scary.
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I always carry on and I maximize the amount that I do within the limits imposed by my airline. What's wrong with that? It certainly has nothing to do with thinking I'm important because I'm elite, but simply understanding airline policies. I rarely see carryon limits abused by FFs, who have their standard rollaboard and personal item, usually a computer case. It doesn't bother me that women will also bring on a purse -- many women don't have pockets in their clothes like we men.
It's the Gomers and the Kettles that I see bringing on odd-sized and ill-fitting carryons and, judging from the news, they're the ones who seem all bent out of shape over the $15 fee.
It's the Gomers and the Kettles that I see bringing on odd-sized and ill-fitting carryons and, judging from the news, they're the ones who seem all bent out of shape over the $15 fee.
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Understood -- I didn't take it personally. I just don't see a problem with most FFs.
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I think you've got that backwards - the infrequent flyers are likely to still expect to check bags, and to pack full-sized suitcases that couldn't be carry-ons. It's the "I'm so important because I'm elite" types who try to board with the laptop bag, roll-aboard and 3 other "personal items" - they know the carry-on game, and try to use to their advantage. They're also most likely to know about the checked-bag fee, which an infrequent traveler may not learn about until they check in.
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eegh... whose legal responsibility ?
It is good to know mother and baby are safe... That must have been pretty scary.
I am wondering, if something had happen and there was a legal case, who would be responsible and sued ? the airline or the faulty passenger ? we know that airlines must ensure dangerous people are not onboard (no drunk people etc), and that those on board don't do anything dangerous. so I am wondering if indeed, it is against the airline that one should complain in such cases.
As for me, I always take extreme case with my baggage, but once I did drop Newsweek on the guy sitting below, while taking things out of my bag, he was furious. He was quite big, I then found out he was a policeman. While I profusely apologised, I dont think Newsweek could ahve harmed him that much.
On the other hand, once a young guy dropped a walkman on me, that was a bit heavier but it fell on my shoulder instead of my head.
I am wondering, if something had happen and there was a legal case, who would be responsible and sued ? the airline or the faulty passenger ? we know that airlines must ensure dangerous people are not onboard (no drunk people etc), and that those on board don't do anything dangerous. so I am wondering if indeed, it is against the airline that one should complain in such cases.
As for me, I always take extreme case with my baggage, but once I did drop Newsweek on the guy sitting below, while taking things out of my bag, he was furious. He was quite big, I then found out he was a policeman. While I profusely apologised, I dont think Newsweek could ahve harmed him that much.
On the other hand, once a young guy dropped a walkman on me, that was a bit heavier but it fell on my shoulder instead of my head.
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It is good to know mother and baby are safe... That must have been pretty scary.
I am wondering, if something had happen and there was a legal case, who would be responsible and sued ? the airline or the faulty passenger ? we know that airlines must ensure dangerous people are not onboard (no drunk people etc), and that those on board don't do anything dangerous. so I am wondering if indeed, it is against the airline that one should complain in such cases.
I am wondering, if something had happen and there was a legal case, who would be responsible and sued ? the airline or the faulty passenger ? we know that airlines must ensure dangerous people are not onboard (no drunk people etc), and that those on board don't do anything dangerous. so I am wondering if indeed, it is against the airline that one should complain in such cases.
Who would be sued? The airline and the passenger who dropped the bag. Possibly, two, the passenger's employer, the manufacturer of the bag, and the manufacturer of the plane. All might have liability exposure.
Who would be liable? It depends on the circumstances, and there's not enough information in the OP's post for me to venture an informed opinion.
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My first flt ever on AA was LGA-ORD and when the FA was doing her safety briefing I said to my mom that it would be hard for a bag to shift doing flight..Sure enough when I open the overhead bin after a rough landing the bag almost fell on me..
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While I don't think it will get any better, there's a few things at play. First, we're made to rush on and get our bags located wherever. If you don't, there's a line of impatient, glaring people behind you that are saying "hurry up, moron" with their eyes. Then there's those who put their bags in without regard for those who follow. You know, middle of the bin, sideways. Finally, it's the bag and personal item in the bin. I was flying SFO-DEN, and after the 10th announcement that the bins were full, can we get more room, etc., this guy in F says, "I guess I can put my laptop bag under my seat." That's where it belongs, bozo.
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While I don't think it will get any better, there's a few things at play. First, we're made to rush on and get our bags located wherever. If you don't, there's a line of impatient, glaring people behind you that are saying "hurry up, moron" with their eyes. Then there's those who put their bags in without regard for those who follow. You know, middle of the bin, sideways. Finally, it's the bag and personal item in the bin. I was flying SFO-DEN, and after the 10th announcement that the bins were full, can we get more room, etc., this guy in F says, "I guess I can put my laptop bag under my seat." That's where it belongs, bozo.
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It is, however, possible that the passenger in the original poster's story had a bag that was within the airline's weight limit, but was too heavy for the passenger to lift safely into or out of the overhead bin. I.e. that passenger's weight limit may be effectively less due to lack of strength.