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chornedsnorkack May 20, 2008 1:36 pm

Maximum trip time competitive with flying
 
What would be the maximum trip time on ground (train or ship) which is competitive with flying + a hotel night at destination?

redbeard911 May 20, 2008 2:03 pm

I'm going to guess that you aren't in the US because you didn't mention driving. ;) This question has been debated several times here on FT. Personally, four hours is my limit, all in. If I can get to the airport, fly, and get to my destination faster than four hours will drive me, then I'll fly.

IsleOfMan May 20, 2008 2:35 pm

For business, it's around 3 hours for me, though my business rarely takes me anywhere within 8 hours of our office.

For pleasure it's a bit more difficult balance. Our most frequented leisure travel location is Orlando and we fly whenever there are very inexpensive tickets available, but drive more often, probably 75% of the time. It's around 8 hours from west Atlanta. The 25% that we fly usually lines up with an on-property stay at Disney which comes with a free airport shuttle. We've only once flown and rented a car, before the shuttle was free and we were spliting a condo with friends.

Savanah/Hilton Head is another that depends on flight prices/sales but ends up being around 50/50 since airtran offers alot of $80-$100 r/t and Delta often matches.

My home town in KY is about a 5 hour drive from ATL, but would be around 4 hours to drive to the airport, get through security, fly to LEX, then drive to my parent's house... I've never once flown.

chornedsnorkack May 20, 2008 2:36 pm


Originally Posted by redbeard911 (Post 9753404)
I'm going to guess that you aren't in the US because you didn't mention driving.

Because you cannot sleep in a bedroom while driving.
A train or a ship is driven. So the passengers can settle down between sheets.

What is the minimum trip time where you would occupy a cabin/compartment rather than sit in public areas?

Cloudship May 20, 2008 4:02 pm

Still a little confused. You mean how long I would travel in a seat before I would upgrade to a cabin, irregardless of the mode, or how long I would travel in a plane seat versus a train seat?

In the US, I can't imagine ever taking the train outside of Amtrak's Acela between Boston and NY. And there I would say I would prefer the train due to comfort, but if I am going only to NYC will choose the plane either because it is half the price, OR the hassles of getting to the train station outweigh getting to the airport.

confused_wombat May 21, 2008 7:02 am

Time of travel might be pretty relevant too... I'd be prepared to travel 8 hours in a sleeping compartment on an overnight train - but if it's a daytime trip, I'd much rather fly.

stut May 21, 2008 7:13 am

It really depends on the circumstances.

For a night train, it's often a better option, as, if I can get one at midnight, it basically buys me back the evening at home.

For a day train, if I can work from the train, then 4-5 hours is fine (particularly on the ones that have Wi-Fi connectivity). Beyond that and it depends on what I'm doing around that time.

It'd be great to have more sleeper trains running from London, particularly through the Channel Tunnel - so much nicer than the old 4am start.

I wouldn't consider driving an option, really - I don't drive where I don't have to. Plus, it's lost time, really - 4 hours on the road listening to music vs 4 hours on my laptop on the train in peace and quiet...

Green Dragon May 21, 2008 8:12 am

Considering I would have to drive at least 1.5 hours or take a bus just to GET to a train station, I would be much more likely to fly at that point (as that is the same distance to the closest major airport, JAX). My time is precious, and I don't like wasting it when I could be enjoying it. While it is relaxing to me to be on a train, I can sit and read at home - I would much rather be visiting places. A drive is a little different - I can get out and explore if I have the time.

chornedsnorkack May 21, 2008 10:44 am


Originally Posted by confused_wombat (Post 9756587)
Time of travel might be pretty relevant too... I'd be prepared to travel 8 hours in a sleeping compartment on an overnight train

In which case, you would need to eat breakfast and dinner at destination.

How long would you spend at your destination for a hotel night - how many hours before duty time would you want to arrive?


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