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Maximum trip time competitive with flying
What would be the maximum trip time on ground (train or ship) which is competitive with flying + a hotel night at destination?
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I'm going to guess that you aren't in the US because you didn't mention driving. ;) This question has been debated several times here on FT. Personally, four hours is my limit, all in. If I can get to the airport, fly, and get to my destination faster than four hours will drive me, then I'll fly.
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For business, it's around 3 hours for me, though my business rarely takes me anywhere within 8 hours of our office.
For pleasure it's a bit more difficult balance. Our most frequented leisure travel location is Orlando and we fly whenever there are very inexpensive tickets available, but drive more often, probably 75% of the time. It's around 8 hours from west Atlanta. The 25% that we fly usually lines up with an on-property stay at Disney which comes with a free airport shuttle. We've only once flown and rented a car, before the shuttle was free and we were spliting a condo with friends. Savanah/Hilton Head is another that depends on flight prices/sales but ends up being around 50/50 since airtran offers alot of $80-$100 r/t and Delta often matches. My home town in KY is about a 5 hour drive from ATL, but would be around 4 hours to drive to the airport, get through security, fly to LEX, then drive to my parent's house... I've never once flown. |
Originally Posted by redbeard911
(Post 9753404)
I'm going to guess that you aren't in the US because you didn't mention driving.
A train or a ship is driven. So the passengers can settle down between sheets. What is the minimum trip time where you would occupy a cabin/compartment rather than sit in public areas? |
Still a little confused. You mean how long I would travel in a seat before I would upgrade to a cabin, irregardless of the mode, or how long I would travel in a plane seat versus a train seat?
In the US, I can't imagine ever taking the train outside of Amtrak's Acela between Boston and NY. And there I would say I would prefer the train due to comfort, but if I am going only to NYC will choose the plane either because it is half the price, OR the hassles of getting to the train station outweigh getting to the airport. |
Time of travel might be pretty relevant too... I'd be prepared to travel 8 hours in a sleeping compartment on an overnight train - but if it's a daytime trip, I'd much rather fly.
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It really depends on the circumstances.
For a night train, it's often a better option, as, if I can get one at midnight, it basically buys me back the evening at home. For a day train, if I can work from the train, then 4-5 hours is fine (particularly on the ones that have Wi-Fi connectivity). Beyond that and it depends on what I'm doing around that time. It'd be great to have more sleeper trains running from London, particularly through the Channel Tunnel - so much nicer than the old 4am start. I wouldn't consider driving an option, really - I don't drive where I don't have to. Plus, it's lost time, really - 4 hours on the road listening to music vs 4 hours on my laptop on the train in peace and quiet... |
Considering I would have to drive at least 1.5 hours or take a bus just to GET to a train station, I would be much more likely to fly at that point (as that is the same distance to the closest major airport, JAX). My time is precious, and I don't like wasting it when I could be enjoying it. While it is relaxing to me to be on a train, I can sit and read at home - I would much rather be visiting places. A drive is a little different - I can get out and explore if I have the time.
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Originally Posted by confused_wombat
(Post 9756587)
Time of travel might be pretty relevant too... I'd be prepared to travel 8 hours in a sleeping compartment on an overnight train
How long would you spend at your destination for a hotel night - how many hours before duty time would you want to arrive? |
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