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Originally Posted by lerasp
(Post 9539595)
the only caveat is that i'm wary of using my non-US passport to enter countries as I've read on some State Dept website that in case of dual nationality and if there's an emergency in a country you are visiting, you are only able to obtain services from the country on whose passport you've entered.
The State Department's Foreign Affairs Manual has a whole section devoted to Dual Nationality. http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86563.pdf Among the relevant statements is this: The Vienna Convention on Consular Relations (VCCR), and most bilateral consular conventions and other consular agreements do not address the issue of dual nationality or how dual nationality affects the provision of consular services and protection to dual nationals. It is the Department's policy to intervene on behalf of all U.S. citizens and U.S. noncitizen nationals, and make representations on their behalf, regardless of dual national status. While you should attempt to provide consular protection and services in accordance with this policy to the fullest extent permitted by the host country, you should make it clear to dual nationals that your ability to assist them may be limited. When a U.S. citizen is a dual national, but is not a citizen of the host country, and the second country of nationality is providing protective services to the dual national, you should consult with the citizen and your foreign consular colleagues to ensure that appropriate protection is provided. The host country might permit consular visits only by the representative of one country, often the nation on whose passport the citizen entered the foreign country. You should continue to follow significant developments in the case and report them to the Department by cable using CASC tags. |
Originally Posted by soitgoes
(Post 9544215)
Basically nonsense.
The State Department's Foreign Affairs Manual has a whole section devoted to Dual Nationality. http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86563.pdf Among the relevant statements is this: As jpatokal indicated, there are issues when you are a dual national of the country you are in, but that is not related to the passport you used for entry, just to the fact that the country you are in may deny you the rights as a foreigner to consular representation (not that State would refuse to help you). In the issues regarding entry with a different passport, there are some coordination and access issues, but it's not so dire. isn't that a pretty clear statement? |
Originally Posted by lerasp
(Post 9545005)
"The host country might permit consular visits only by the representative of one country, often the nation on whose passport the citizen entered the foreign country".
isn't that a pretty clear statement? |
Originally Posted by lerasp
(Post 9544107)
you may be right on that point. But it's easy enough to check on what passport you entered a country - just open the passport and look for entry stamps. only a few European countries don't stamp. otherwise, almost always there will be an entry stamp.
On the way in we were delayed on the plane a bit (probably hunting down a stray object but I don't recall) and by the time we got to passport control they were chatting with each other, saw our US passports and simply waved us through. We left via train, the idiot taxi driver took us to the cable car station instead of the train station and we got there at the last instant. Passport control waved several of us through--the train was already rolling but slow enough that we got on anyway. |
Originally Posted by lerasp
(Post 9545005)
"The host country might permit consular visits only by the representative of one country, often the nation on whose passport the citizen entered the foreign country".
isn't that a pretty clear statement? And I can tell you that, in my own personal experience, it has not been a problem entering with one passport and seeking assistance at a different consulate. Even during times of war. |
Originally Posted by lerasp
(Post 9539595)
you make it sounds like getting a citizenship is akin to going to market shopping. i'm sure most people who are eligible have either done so or have very good reasons not to. However, once you have two passports, it's great! the only caveat is that i'm wary of using my non-US passport to enter countries as I've read on some State Dept website that in case of dual nationality and if there's an emergency in a country you are visiting, you are only able to obtain services from the country on whose passport you've entered.
In other words, if you enter Syria on non-US passport and get in trouble, you can't run to US embassy to ask for help. Now, i've never tested it, but every time I decide which passport to pull out, i think how much hassles it saves me vs potential downside. Maybe that's all bull..if someone can disprove, i'd love to hear. al |
Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel
(Post 9552713)
Even if they normally stamp not everplace always does. We once got into and out of Singapore without a stamp.
On the way in we were delayed on the plane a bit (probably hunting down a stray object but I don't recall) and by the time we got to passport control they were chatting with each other, saw our US passports and simply waved us through. We left via train, the idiot taxi driver took us to the cable car station instead of the train station and we got there at the last instant. Passport control waved several of us through--the train was already rolling but slow enough that we got on anyway. |
The US always questions my Syrian visa (used). I had an unused Qatar visa after the ferry service from Iran to Qatar stopped and I left via Turkey. These days, Americans can get a Qatar visa on arrival.
Nobody goes to Vietnam for fun?? Umm... right. :rolleyes: I may have a Syrian residence visa next year - love to see how that works out at US immigration. :rolleyes: |
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