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stupidhead Jan 19, 2008 11:12 pm

I thought there was a door in the front for the 727. Like 2 doors. And a couple of overwing exits.

birdstrike Jan 19, 2008 11:21 pm


Originally Posted by stupidhead (Post 9101779)
I thought there was a door in the front for the 727. Like 2 doors. And a couple of overwing exits.

There are.

jwillett13 Jan 20, 2008 12:42 am

2 cockpit windows
2 foward doors L1, R1
2 overwing exits
2 aft doors L2, R2
1 aft/airstair door

B747-437B Jan 20, 2008 3:52 am


Originally Posted by jwillett13 (Post 9101767)
At one company I worked for on the 727, the f/o was supposed to exit the most rear-ward exit. Usually the aft airstairs. It made absoutely no sense, the f/o has to climb over the f/e and then go aft rather than going out his window exit.

The logic behind that is that the FO goes through the entire cabin and ensures everyone else is off the aircraft before leaving himself.

Similar reason why the pilot's hat is on the checklist for emergency evacuation together with assorted survival gear, even though it seems quite ridiculous on the face of it. It identifies the pilots easily as people in authority and usually people just want someone to give them instructions to follow.

jwillett13 Jan 21, 2008 5:39 pm


Originally Posted by B747-437B (Post 9102267)
The logic behind that is that the FO goes through the entire cabin and ensures everyone else is off the aircraft before leaving himself.

My point of contention is, it should be the f/e that went out the most reward exit and not the f/o. Since climbing over the f/e chair (when its not in the forward stowed position) is hazardous in itself. The f/e went through the R1 door to ground egress.

stupidhead Jan 21, 2008 5:45 pm

I like my idea better. Open the exit doors and get the .... out. Tear open the fuselage if you have to.

ksandness Jan 21, 2008 8:34 pm


Originally Posted by Lurker1999 (Post 9098966)
The other thing I've wondered about is how do they get people's baggage off the plane? Is it still on the BA plane? What if you keep your passport, money, etc. in your bag which you're told to leave behind?

That's why I always carry my passport, credit cards, and a bit of cash in a neck pouch, even though I've never (knock on wood!) had to evacuate a plane. But you never know...

birdstrike Jan 21, 2008 8:53 pm

I wear my shoes below 10K ft. That is my only concession to possible uncontrolled landings.

cblaisd Jan 21, 2008 10:49 pm


Originally Posted by birdstrike (Post 9112201)
That is my only concession to possible uncontrolled landings.

Unless you're over the ocean about to experience my favorite oxymoronic euphemism, a "water landing."

frontenac551 Jan 22, 2008 10:21 am


Originally Posted by cblaisd (Post 9112639)
Unless you're over the ocean about to experience my favorite oxymoronic euphemism, a "water landing."


That is something I've often wondered. Has there every been a successful water landing? Have those rubber boats every actually been used?

That and the fact that I don't understand how slides turn into boats (I keep imagining the edges of the boat at the stern and bow getting in the way of sliding down when it is acting as slide). Or are there two things in each door (a slide and a boat) - which seems wrong?

gglave Jan 22, 2008 12:22 pm

I recall reading somewhere that a little-stated fact (for obvious reasons) is that in an emergency, disabled pax de-plane after able-bodied pax, so they don't clog up the aisles etc.

If you're able-bodied and in a window seat, and a disabled passenger is in the aisle, in an emergency you'll be shouted at to climb over them and get off the plane, NOW NOW NOW!!! Once all the able pax are off the crew help the disabled pax out, then the crew de-plane.

gglave Jan 22, 2008 12:27 pm


Originally Posted by frontenac551 (Post 9114736)
That is something I've often wondered. Has there every been a successful water landing?

http://www.wakullasprings.org/Images...rAirport77.jpg

In all seriousness, landing in water is called a 'ditching' - Here's a list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ditchin...rcial_aircraft

Steve M Jan 22, 2008 4:38 pm

The cockpit exit door in the roof is a customer option on the 747. Here's pic of a NW 747-400 that has one:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1177779/L/

I remember at some point one airline had these installed as an anti-hijacking measure, under the theory that if the airplane was hijacked and landed (such as for re-fueling), the cockpit crew could bail out through the roof hatch to remove the possibility of taking off again from the hijackers' set of options. This was controversial at the time, as people had mixed feelings about the cockpit crew abandoning the ship with hijacked passengers aboard.

I don't know why using the cockpit window as an exit would not work in such a situation, but somebody felt it was important enough to add the exit hatch to the roof.

fairviewroad Jan 23, 2008 3:26 pm


Originally Posted by birdstrike (Post 9101755)
I suspect that people like that simply play the odds, which usually turn out in their favor.

In an accident, if they think about it all, the FAs will triage the situation and POS who cannot help themselves will be evacuated last, if time allows.

Call you clarify what "POS" means in this case?

gglave Jan 23, 2008 3:51 pm


Originally Posted by fairviewroad (Post 9122924)
Call you clarify what "POS" means in this case?

"Passengers of Size", i.e. obese pax. Note that on most airlines they're referred to as "COS"es ("Customers of Size") not "POS"es.


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