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Old Jun 6, 07, 11:12 am
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Yet Another Airline Etiquette Question: Window Shades

I was on a United flight over the weekend in F, row 1, on a 757. Row 1 chair is positioned just past window #2 (about 1-2" past window#2) when not declined. When reclined, Row 1 covers the entire window #2.

I had a terrible headache so when we reached a cruising altitute (when there was nothing to see outside the window....just clouds), I shut the shades at window #1 and #2 so I could attempt to go to sleep. 10 seconds later, Mr 2D reached over and re-opened window shade #2.

...? I thought, but my head was about to burst, I didn't bother arguing with him. I covered up my face with my right arm. I tried to go to sleep.

10 minutes later, just as I was about to fall asleep, I heard the shade being shut at window #2 and his hand was next to my face.

So my question is, whose has window #2? 1D or 2D? It's technically 1D's when reclined because it covered up the entire window

2D already had window #3 to look out, I don't understand why he needed window #2 as well?
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Old Jun 6, 07, 11:40 am
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It's technically 1D's when reclined because it covered up the entire window
Here's your answer.

If your face is immediately next to it, it's yours IMHO.

But, as a courtesy (and for safety), I think it's a nice gesture to raise window shades for takeoff and landing. I really think this should be part of the flight attendant announcements. (I know some airlines do this; UA does not currently.)
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Old Jun 6, 07, 11:55 am
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Window shaes open takeoff and landing

On some of the inflight safety videos there is an announcement that goes something like this" As we prepare for take-off we request that all seatbacks,tray tables be in their full upright and locked position. we kindly request that all widnow shades be raised for take-off and landing.
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Old Jun 6, 07, 11:58 am
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10 minutes later, just as I was about to fall asleep, I heard the shade being shut at window #2 and his hand was next to my face.
Your concern is about who has control of the window shade? I would think you would really want to know what this man's hand is doing next to your face! That's my reaction to your story.
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Old Jun 6, 07, 12:07 pm
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Originally Posted by danielonn View Post
On some of the inflight safety videos there is an announcement that goes something like this" As we prepare for take-off we request that all seatbacks,tray tables be in their full upright and locked position. we kindly request that all widnow shades be raised for take-off and landing.
I said in my OP that I shut the shades AFTER we had reached a cruising altitude (i.e. pilot turned off the seatbelt sign)
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Old Jun 6, 07, 12:08 pm
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Your concern is about who has control of the window shade? I would think you would really want to know what this man's hand is doing next to your face! That's my reaction to your story.
I don't think he was trying to do anything to me, he was just reaching for the shade....or so I hope.
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Old Jun 6, 07, 12:38 pm
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Originally Posted by BlissWorld View Post
I was on a United flight over the weekend in F, row 1, on a 757. Row 1 chair is positioned just past window #2 (about 1-2" past window#2) when not declined. When reclined, Row 1 covers the entire window #2.

I had a terrible headache so when we reached a cruising altitute (when there was nothing to see outside the window....just clouds), I shut the shades at window #1 and #2 so I could attempt to go to sleep. 10 seconds later, Mr 2D reached over and re-opened window shade #2.
so... were you reclining? sounds like that would have solved your problem by denying him access
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Old Jun 6, 07, 12:53 pm
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so... were you reclining? sounds like that would have solved your problem by denying him access
I did, hence his hand in my face!
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Old Jun 6, 07, 1:19 pm
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You should have smacked his hand and said, "Get that thing out of my face!"
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Old Jun 6, 07, 2:01 pm
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Late afternoons I always drop the shade because of sun glare. I can't think of a time when I had it up and someone wanted it down or v.v. If I'm trying to use my laptop or PSP, I will put the shade down.

To answer the OP, I only control windows between my eyes and the eyes of the pax in front of me. If a window is behind my field of vision, I usually leave it alone.

If someone was sleeping and closed the window for that reason, I sure wouldn't put the shade up. How rude.
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Old Jun 6, 07, 2:58 pm
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I did, hence his hand in my face!
Maybe it was the Pope and he was offering his ring for you to kiss?
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Old Jun 6, 07, 10:27 pm
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Whatever happened to asking?

Now opening the next can of flaming worms:

Q: Would it be assault to slap the hand that came in front of my face?
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Maybe it was the Pope and he was offering his ring for you to kiss?
Ummm . . I think the Pope gets first dibs on row 1.
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Now opening the next can of flaming worms:

Q: Would it be assault to slap the hand that came in front of my face?
Huh? Can of flaming worms? When (except for self-defense) is it ever OK to strike someone else?
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Old Jun 6, 07, 11:46 pm
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I'm inclined to agree with redbeard911's boundaries. If reclining gets the window under my "area of control" and I want to control it, then I would recline.

I sometimes get migraines and they can come with terrible light sensitivity that may have me vomiting if I can't reduce light and certainly anything very bright. If I had a head ache of that nature and were trying to gain control of extended territory, I think I would quietly mention the problem to the person causing the problem. I can't think many people would choose a vomiting neighbor over a slightly darker cabin, though I suppose I may be surprised.
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