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MileageAddict May 28, 2007 6:49 pm

Only inflight entertainment on an MD80 is making a hand puppet out of the barf bag. :D

I flew 164 flight segments in 2006 and am on par to do that many this year. Scariest thing that happened to me was missing a connecting flight.


Originally Posted by keepthelegend (Post 7811228)
Mileage Addict, thanks for the welcome. Its not so much the crash record that worrys me, more the thought that the planes are so old and maybe not as reliable or high tech as new ones. Also, for some reason feel safer on Boeing made planes than MDs. Is there any in flight entertainment? Besides me having a panic attack! I read an article about the teflon being almost completely gone on an MD model a few years ago (again, have no idea what I am talking about or what that means, but it was part of my Google education under MD 88 problems!) and it makes me wonder what else is almost worn out that hasn't been discovered yet. Also hate heights, am clausterphobic, and worry about death quite a bit , and have had pretty bad luck with family and friends being involved in airplane accidents so that probably adds to everything!


UCBeau May 28, 2007 6:52 pm

maybe you should drive or take the train?

JohnneeO May 30, 2007 1:35 pm


Originally Posted by bhmlurker (Post 7811118)
Aren't tail mounted engine jets such as 717/727, DC-9, MD-80/90s, and such actually quieter in the cabin, because the engine is way in the back? Except, of course, for the few seats near the engine.

Aircrafts are very reliable when properly maintained, as most US airlines are. 10-20 year old planes fly without any problem. I wouldn't worry.

Nice & Quiet Row 15 & lower numbers. Further back, it gets pretty noisy.

greggwiggins May 30, 2007 1:58 pm

What Opus 17 said. You're in far greater danger from the traffic on the road to the airport than you'll be in flight.

As for the age of the aircraft, one of the most reliable and safest airplanes ever built is the DC-3. Quite a few are still around today. And the newest of them was built (if I recall correctly) in 1944.

cl.lurker May 30, 2007 2:35 pm


Originally Posted by opus17 (Post 7811318)
You should be worried--about the trip to and from the airport. The plane, not so much.

^ ^

B1 May 30, 2007 2:39 pm

Think of it as a Boeing 717 - classic model - it's basically the same thing - and one of the better items in the air, really. The safety issue is under the full control of government inspections. Newer planes have problems that are yet to be discovered.

BamaVol May 30, 2007 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by keepthelegend (Post 7811253)
BamaVol, how many times do you fly a year? Have you ever had an emergency landing or any sort of problem? LarryJ, thanks so much for the info, that really does help a lot.

Around 100 flights last year. Mostly Delta. More MD-88's than anything else. No emergency landings last year. One the previous year. Yes, it was an MD-88, but when 80% of your flights are one type of aircraft, what would you expect? We had a hydraulic fluid leak. The plane landed safely and an hour later, we took off again in a different MD-88. Yes, I got on the same type of aircraft that malfunctioned an hour after an emergency landing. So, I'm either a fool or I know something about the odds. :)

keepthelegend May 31, 2007 12:10 pm

What happens during an emergency landing? Do you have to go into crash position?! Were people upset? My heart is pounding just thinking about it! Did the plane feel any different? Is it common to have a hydraulic fuel leak on md88's and what happens if it is not noticed - could the plane still fly for 2 hrs and put me back on the ground (via a runway!)?

dvs7310 May 31, 2007 6:13 pm

Hydraulic systems are redundant. A leak in one system would cause the plane to shift to another (I don't know how many the MD-88 has, but a larger plane like a DC-10 or 747 has 3-4 redundant systems). It takes a pretty catastrophic event to cause complete hydraulic failure. Landing due to a leak in one system is a safety precaution but the plane is in no danger of crashing at that point.

BamaVol May 31, 2007 6:38 pm


Originally Posted by keepthelegend (Post 7827215)
What happens during an emergency landing? Do you have to go into crash position?! Were people upset? My heart is pounding just thinking about it! Did the plane feel any different? Is it common to have a hydraulic fuel leak on md88's and what happens if it is not noticed - could the plane still fly for 2 hrs and put me back on the ground (via a runway!)?

The forward landing gear retracted, but the cover would not close. The pilot was able to lower the gear. He was prepared to fly us to CLE, but received instructions to return to ATL and swap aircraft. We were in the air no more than 30 minutes total. We did not assume any special position. We were instructed to follow all FA requests. It was noisy because we flew with all the wheels down. There was an odd smell, but not overwhelming. We landed with no difficulties. At no time was I expecting to die or suffer serious injury. It was all handled calmly and professionally. BTW, my employer makes hydraulic systems for aircraft among other products and I am told that many are redundant because of the possibility of failure.

AndrewC75 Jun 1, 2007 12:59 pm


Originally Posted by keepthelegend (Post 7811228)
Also, for some reason feel safer on Boeing made planes than MDs.

What's in a name? You might not know this, but Boeing bought McDonnell-Douglas several years ago and assumed responsibility for all McD aircraft. In fact, the Boeing 717 was originally named the McDonnell-Douglas MD-95. After B bought McD, they made a few (relatively minor) changes and renamed it!

BNA_flyer Jun 2, 2007 11:42 am

You will be safer on that MD-88 than you will be in whatever form of ground transportation you take to the airport. Relax.


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