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When I think of LHR, I think *DELAY*. STN might not be as deluxe of an airport, not that it really matters, but if you can land and get out of the airport much quicker than LHR, would the somewhat further distance really matter?
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Originally Posted by magiciansampras
(Post 7216329)
Stanstead is 40 miles away, not 30. That makes a big difference. What is your source for this data?
I will agree, for people traveling by tube and train, it's hard to see much of a difference between LHR/LGW/STN. For people traveling by car obviously there is a big difference. |
Originally Posted by magiciansampras
(Post 7216329)
How are you measuring city center? According to this: http://www.autoeurope.com/guides/Uni...n-airports.cfm
Stanstead is 40 miles away, not 30. That makes a big difference. What is your source for this data? |
Originally Posted by pred02
(Post 7217907)
Wikipedia. What do you define as center? London is pretty big.
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Originally Posted by grouse
(Post 7217689)
Possibly the same place he got the other numerical "data" in this thread. ;)
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Originally Posted by pred02
(Post 7217935)
How courteous!
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Originally Posted by pred02
(Post 7206220)
1) Far is a relative term - 30 miles. I bet going into Liverpool street (where there is a lot of business it's faster to come from Stansted then Heathrow, even with Heathrow Express.
The LHR express stops at the terminals and then it's straight in to Paddington. 15 minutes. 2) Stansted had over 23 million passengers last year. It's hardly chump-change, and believe me it's very "creditable." I'm off to Poprad (TAT) in Slovakia next week. There is a direct route from STN - TAT. I live in between BRS and BHX. I don't give a $hit about the direct route when a LH flight from BHX via MUC in to BTS is £20 cheaper than the LCC Sky Europe flight. I'm still on a Sky Europe flight between BTS and Kosice as that last one is closer to TAT. I much rather do that than spend 3 hrs driving or 4hrs train tube train or 5+ hrs on a bus. So unless you actually live in the area STN is not a great airport. If you would only use it as a hub or refueling station - great. Now, if the flights are so expenisve out to LHR why not fly direct to BCN or FRA or MUC from whence you are in the US? /E |
Originally Posted by Emma65
(Post 7218232)
have you actually flown in to STN and taken the STN "express". It's a local ommuter train that takes bout 45 minutes to get to Liverpool Street.
The LHR express stops at the terminals and then it's straight in to Paddington. 15 minutes. I'd say 99% of those feel absolutely conned by the system on getting there. You look at the low cost ticket only to realise that getting to STN, unless you live in the area, is a logistical nightmare. So unless you actually live in the area STN is not a great airport. If you would only use it as a hub or refueling station - great. Now, if the flights are so expenisve out to LHR why not fly direct to BCN or FRA or MUC from whence you are in the US? /E If you live in Northern or Eastern part of London that perhaps it's less time to take the 45 minute Stansted Express rather than transit to Paddington then take the Heathrow Express. I used to live on Finchley Road where nearby the A6 bus would stop and would be 1 hour to Stansted on an early morning flight. By the time bus leaves Finchley road it's pretty much a straight shot to Stansted in terms of traffic. Going to Finchley road, transferring to Padding and then going to Heathrow took just as much time. Again, it's relative as to where you live. Flights to MUC are always or more often much more expensive than a flight to London. And flights out of MUC are never very cheap. I transfer via Belgrade a number of times via MUC, those flights are never cheap. |
Originally Posted by Emma65
(Post 7218232)
I'd say 99% of those feel absolutely conned by the system on getting there. You look at the low cost ticket only to realise that getting to STN, unless you live in the area, is a logistical nightmare.
Originally Posted by Emma65
So unless you actually live in the area STN is not a great airport. If you would only use it as a hub or refueling station - great. Now, if the flights are so expensive out to LHR why not fly direct to BCN or FRA or MUC from whence you are in the US?
There are already lots of ways to avoid LHR, and STN isn't one of the more attractive ones. |
Sometimes when you are exhausted after a transcon flight or it is early and you don't want to get up at the crack of dawn and hassle with luggage and trains, many of us just take a cab. The difference between taking a cab from Heathrow into the main of London and from Stansted doing the same is monumental.
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Originally Posted by mattkorey
(Post 7223046)
Sometimes when you are exhausted after a transcon flight or it is early and you don't want to get up at the crack of dawn and hassle with luggage and trains, many of us just take a cab. The difference between taking a cab from Heathrow into the main of London and from Stansted doing the same is monumental.
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I wonder how things will change if and when BAA no longer controls the major London airports... Could be interesting.
http://news.flightmapping.com/06/12/...poly_1120.html The Office of Fair Trading is planning to refer the British Airports Authority (BAA) to the Competition Commission, a move which could end its ownership of London’s three biggest airports. The OFT said it will ask the Commission to carry out a more detailed investigation into BAA’s provision of airport services after finding evidence of poor quality and high charges. It said the current structure “does not deliver best value for air travellers in the UK.” The consumer group will hold an eight-week consultation before the referral, it said in a statement. BAA owns Heathrow, Gatwick, Stansted and Southampton airports in south east England, as well as Edinburgh, Glasgow and Aberdeen in Scotland. BAA’s airports handle more than sixty per cent of all air passengers in the UK. The OFT's market study found evidence of poor customer satisfaction, the statement said. It added that BAA’s airports in the south east handle ninety per cent of passenger trips, and that under separate ownership they could compete to attract air passengers. The OFT said without competition, planned investment at those airports could be inefficient and costly for consumers. ... |
Originally Posted by Emma65
(Post 7218232)
have you actually flown in to STN and taken the STN "express". It's a local ommuter train that takes bout 45 minutes to get to Liverpool Street.
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Originally Posted by pred02
(Post 7217935)
How courteous!
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Originally Posted by grouse
(Post 7225165)
Hey, I'll make you a deal. You stop making up "data," and I'll stop calling you on it. :D
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