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chornedsnorkack Jan 26, 2007 2:43 am

Why rows across cabin?
 
Can someone explain why aircraft seating rows normally go across the plane? Is it easier or safer to use an aisle if the seat across the aisle is located besides the seat on the other side, rather than between the seats on the other side of the aisle?

flygirl94 Jan 26, 2007 6:54 am


Originally Posted by chornedsnorkack (Post 7095919)
Can someone explain why aircraft seating rows normally go across the plane? Is it easier or safer to use an aisle if the seat across the aisle is located besides the seat on the other side, rather than between the seats on the other side of the aisle?

Maybe I need more coffee, but .....

:confused:

chrissxb Jan 26, 2007 6:59 am


Originally Posted by flygirl94 (Post 7096524)
Maybe I need more coffee, but .....

:confused:

:confused: here, too

jpatokal Jan 26, 2007 7:23 am


Originally Posted by chornedsnorkack (Post 7095919)
Is it easier or safer to use an aisle if the seat across the aisle is located besides the seat on the other side, rather than between the seats on the other side of the aisle?

This sentence does not compute. :confused:

jib71 Jan 26, 2007 7:30 am

It would hinder evacuation in the event of a water landing if the airline were to position rows between the other side which are side-by-side with the ones they're in between.

Dianne47 Jan 26, 2007 7:30 am

OK, I think I get what the OP is asking. He wants to know why rows of seats are lined up all the way across the plane, so that each row is exactly on the same "line" as the row across the aisle.

I was on a Southwest 737 yesterday where the rows were not aligned. I found it a little odd.

jimbo99 Jan 26, 2007 7:38 am


Originally Posted by Dianne47 (Post 7096665)
OK, I think I get what the OP is asking. He wants to know why rows of seats are lined up all the way across the plane, so that each row is exactly on the same "line" as the row across the aisle.

I was on a Southwest 737 yesterday where the rows were not aligned. I found it a little odd.

Yep... that's my interpretation too. I am drinking coffee... but that is coincidental. We'll never know if it helped...

I too have been on configurations where they don't line up. I've always assumed they just go for the configuration where they can pack the most seats in which will often mean they line up, especially behind the curtain.

chornedsnorkack Jan 26, 2007 7:45 am


Originally Posted by jib71 (Post 7096661)
It would hinder evacuation in the event of a water landing if the airline were to position rows between the other side which are side-by-side with the ones they're in between.

Er, would it?
In cramped economy cabin, seat pitch is around 75-80 cm. If you and the passenger across the aisle try to stand up simultaneously when the plane stops, you could get two people standing in 75-80 cm of aisle - but you would bump into each other between the seatbacks and armrest ends.

hhoope01 Jan 26, 2007 7:50 am

Unless the bulk-heads don't allign for each side of the plane or an airline will have variable pitches between different seats, the current seat allignments are probably the way to get the most seats in the cabin.

It has been a couple of years since I have flown Southwest, but don't they have some seats that actually face backwards (i.e. toward the row behind them?) If so, that may be one reason that their rows don't always line up.

chornedsnorkack Jan 26, 2007 8:00 am


Originally Posted by hhoope01 (Post 7096750)
Unless the bulk-heads don't allign for each side of the plane or an airline will have variable pitches between different seats, the current seat allignments are probably the way to get the most seats in the cabin.

Well, at the ends of cabin, there are often features like galleys, storage, toilets, crew jumpseats. If they are asymmetric, the space could be handled there.

redbeard911 Jan 26, 2007 8:04 am


Originally Posted by chornedsnorkack (Post 7095919)
Can someone explain why aircraft seating rows normally go across the plane? Is it easier or safer to use an aisle if the seat across the aisle is located besides the seat on the other side, rather than between the seats on the other side of the aisle?


Originally Posted by jib71 (Post 7096661)
It would hinder evacuation in the event of a water landing if the airline were to position rows between the other side which are side-by-side with the ones they're in between.

Looking for the button to switch to the English version....

etch5895 Jan 26, 2007 8:05 am

Are you suggesting that the aisle should be situated differently on aircraft? Where it is now provides the most headroom for people walking down the aisle. I know on a CRJ / ERJ I'm half ducking just to walk down the aisle as it is.

djk7 Jan 26, 2007 8:10 am


Originally Posted by hhoope01 (Post 7096750)
Unless the bulk-heads don't allign for each side of the plane or an airline will have variable pitches between different seats, the current seat allignments are probably the way to get the most seats in the cabin.

That's the way I've seen it, if there are closets, lavs, or galleys that offset the bulkhead from one side to the other, then the rows behind will be staggered also. Otherwise, staggering rows on each side just for the sake of staggering just wastes space.


Originally Posted by hhoope01 (Post 7096750)
It has been a couple of years since I have flown Southwest, but don't they have some seats that actually face backwards (i.e. toward the row behind them?) If so, that may be one reason that their rows don't always line up.

WN got rid of the rear facing seats, I think it has been a couple of years now.

hhoope01 Jan 26, 2007 8:12 am


Originally Posted by chornedsnorkack (Post 7096800)
Well, at the ends of cabin, there are often features like galleys, storage, toilets, crew jumpseats. If they are asymmetric, the space could be handled there.

I did think of that, and I just assumed (OK, usually a bad thing to do. :eek: ) that the size of those things, like the galley, were designed to match up with the original seat pitch of the airplane. IOW, the galley would match to exactly twice the seat pitch for the plane. That way no wasted space.

But you are right in that even if they did do that for the original design, what happens if the airlines change the seat pitch?

jib71 Jan 26, 2007 8:44 am


Originally Posted by redbeard911 (Post 7096818)
Looking for the button to switch to the English version....

It's under the space which is perpendicularly situated to the ones between the parallel area. Got it?



Oh... and um... I do believe that gets me to... Mornington Crescent!


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