I think the problem is this question of rights and entitlement. In the end, in most seats on most planes, you do not have exclusive space rights, but shared space rights. Your recline space leans into someone else's table and knee space. If you are in an aisle seat, the window (and middle seats in economy and business) has to use your table space to exit and enter the row.

Granted as you move up in classes, you are sharing less of your space and with less people, but the concept of sharing remains. This is where courtesy becomes essential. In this case, the OP seems to have undertaken the basic aspects of courtesy by reclining slowly (and presumably by timing it in such a way that it was unlikely for the person behind to have a laptop damaged or to have his meal dumped in his lap. Could he have done more? Of course. Ptravel could have denied himself the pleasure of reclining for the benefit of his fellow traveler. Was this necessary or required? No.

The person behind him, though did not undertake the basic aspects of courtesy. If he had difficulty with the person in front reclining, the proper response is to request that the person in front not recline, or engage in a polite negotiation of the shared space, not engage in childish tactics of seat-kicking and resting the paper on his neighbor's head.

I would add that it is possible to fold a paper in such a way as to read it in a much more confined space than the space in question. People do it every day on the subway.

So you can only point to SIN-KUL and SIN-KCH in MH and SQ from which you write:

And this is not peculiar with just the US; this is practised in many other places as well. (Bold added)

I would argue that using a term such as FIRST does drive expectations and is used rarely outside North America on a two cabin service - particularly if the pitch is 38". You just asserted it wasn't the case, and I picked you up on it. That's all. If you think its "harping" and off-topic, then no need to reply.

Actually SIN-BKI and SIN-PEN as well. 4 routes within 1000miles from where I live is "many" to me. If my interpretation of the word "many" is wrong, I apologise. English is not my first language and I am sure your defination of the word "many" is more acceptable.

Now coming back on topic. You have made much criticism on US Domestic F. For the second time I am asking, do you have any actual experience flying US Domestic F ? If you do not, then no need to reply ;)

mario33
And this is not peculiar with just the US; this is practised in many other places as well. (Bold added)

then

4 routes within 1000miles from where I live is "many" to me
if my interpretation of the word "many" is wrong, I apologise. English is not my first language

I speak a few languages (and have a degree in linguistics since you seem interested in my credentials). Your English seems fine enough to me - don't think that is where the problem lies. Anyway apology accepted.

You have made much criticism on US Domestic F.
Same error - with "much" this time. You should avoid these sweeping statements. My ONLY criticism centred on its being called F.

For the second time I am asking, do you have any actual experience flying US Domestic F ?

YES :rolleyes:

Your reply is much appreciated.

I would allow other readers to judge the credibility of your many posts.

How generous!

In Y class, I am a militant anti-recline person (at least on domestic flights).

In premium classes (C/J/F) I think reclining is perfectly acceptable (with the possible exception of European business class, which, on many airlines, is almost indistinguishable from Y). There is plenty of space for everyone, and one can be quite comfortable even with the person in front reclined. That's the whole point of premium classes (duh).

The person who complained to the OP was a jerk.

All I wish is that people would put thier seats up during meal services. Other than that I couldn't care less.