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Old Dec 24, 2006, 3:48 am
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Thumbs down And they said Denver was an "all-weather airport"

I remember very clearly the PR talk from Denver when the new airport opened in 1994. They called it "the nation's first all-weather airport" and said it would make the airport closings of Stapleton a thing of the past.

Is it possible for the thousands of stranded travelers to sue for false advertising?

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Old Dec 24, 2006, 3:54 am
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Yes... I'm sure all those pilots would have loved to land in gale-force winds. Oh wait... I bet you expected DIA to turn off the wind?
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Old Dec 24, 2006, 6:55 am
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Yes... I'm sure all those pilots would have loved to land in gale-force winds. Oh wait... I bet you expected DIA to turn off the wind?
Excuse me, but that's not what I said. I said that the PR for the new airport was blatantly deceptive. I'm sure it is unsafe to land in gale-force winds in a blizzard. That being the case, why lie about it and promise an "all weather airport"?
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Well, there's no such thing as an All Weather Airport, it's like saying something is Bulletproof or Indestructible.
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Old Dec 24, 2006, 9:06 am
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Politicians and PR people lied! Oh my! How could that happen?
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Old Dec 24, 2006, 10:21 am
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I heard that the DEN officials regret ever coming up with that phrase!

Is that like the "unsinkable Titantic"? (But then again "the unsinkable Molly Brown" was from Denver! )
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Old Dec 24, 2006, 11:27 am
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Originally Posted by Unimatrix One
Excuse me, but that's not what I said. I said that the PR for the new airport was blatantly deceptive. I'm sure it is unsafe to land in gale-force winds in a blizzard. That being the case, why lie about it and promise an "all weather airport"?

Go look up the definition of "hype".....
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Old Dec 24, 2006, 1:37 pm
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I actually flew into DEN during what I think was the first blizzard after it opened, when they kept the airport open. What they couldn't seem to do was clear Pena Blvd., or any of the other streets, and it was a drive I will never forget. Then of course the airport workers couldn't manage to get to work for days, etc. I think that they subsequently decided they'd close during extreme weather.
Do you think that's the only lie that was told about DEN? How about the great new automated baggage system?
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While the runways were tough to plow because of the constant wind drifts etc...

The ramps were probably the bigger of the two problems. What good is a plane coming in if it has nowhere to go?
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Old Dec 24, 2006, 6:47 pm
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Originally Posted by WRCSolberg
Go look up the definition of "hype".....
I think a flat-out lie goes beyond hype.
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Old Dec 24, 2006, 10:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Unimatrix One
I think a flat-out lie goes beyond hype.
But that begs the question... did you actually believe them when they said "all-weather airport?" Why would anyone believe anything is an all-anything anything?
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Old Dec 24, 2006, 10:26 pm
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Originally Posted by the_traveler
I heard that the DEN officials regret ever coming up with that phrase!

Is that like the "unsinkable Titantic"? (But then again "the unsinkable Molly Brown" was from Denver! )
i wonder if they had the MDW incident (WN jet landing in snow, skidding off runway) a couple winters in their mind. that might have been incentive to completely close rather than stay open to comply with the phrase and risk accidents.
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Old Dec 25, 2006, 6:45 am
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Originally Posted by Unimatrix One
I think a flat-out lie goes beyond hype.
I think you don't appreciate the subtleties involved in your use of the word "lie".

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The question should be if any other existing airport could have done better if hit by the same storm. I doubt that any could.
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Old Dec 25, 2006, 7:36 am
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Seems to me the guy was telling the truth -- at least mostly. DEN is an all-weather airport. No one ever said anything about the planes being all-weather!

I guess it's debatable whether it was the first one, though. Seems to me many airports built before DEN would stand up to lots of different weather conditions.
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