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Originally Posted by rankourabu
(Post 13351329)
Lets see, 93 countries visited. Scammed once in Hungary in 2000, when I was 21, taxi had a super-charged meter, ended up $20 where it should be $5ish
Places I found I had to be most on guard against scams were Morocco and Russia. Although I am sure my upcoming trip to India will bring it to a whole new level :D I think however, as someone under/at 30, and usually with a backpack, scammers just dont bother with me, and move onto more obvious/valuable targets. |
Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 13351396)
You've been to more countries than I (about twice as many), but I've never been scammed, either.
And in most scammers eyes, the best scams are the ones that people don't even realize. I've been to 50+ countries, and most of the rip offs are taxi related. I've had taxi meters which run twice as fast as normal, switching out real money for counterfeit. Lots of other little rip offs, but I either ignore them, or figure some way around them 99% of the time. Some that people think are scams, such as the table charge for bread and snacks, are just the norm in certain countries. In my opinion, even things like a hotel offering to charge your bill in US dollars, which ends up in a double conversion rate, at bad terms, is a scam. |
More taxi related scams. In China make sure to give taxi drivers small change or read out the serial number of 100RMB notes you hand over. What some of them will do is switch out your real currency for a counterfeit and ask you for another note. Rinse and repeat until all your notes have been switched.
In Singapore some taxis especially the Mercedes limousine ones will hang out at popular drinking holes and then quote you a fixed price to your destination. Never accept the price they give. All taxis regardless of make and model charge by the meter in Singapore. |
Originally Posted by trilinearmipmap
(Post 13344187)
We were scammed at a restaurant in Singapore. Before our meal came they brought out a small plate of appetizers, ? bread or chips or something similar I forget what. I assumed it was free, then they charged us for it. Nowadays I would have refused to pay for something I hadn't ordered but back then we were less experienced an naive so we paid up.
And another scam that is related to eateries are those commonly reported on local newspapers. The seafood eateries are the most common culprits. They will see a Caucasian and inflate the bill by several hundreds because they know tourists won't know the difference. So the trick is to always ask for the prices before buying any seafood. Then make a mental note of what you ordered and make sure the total bill doesn't differ by too much. There are other extra charges like hand towels and 7% GST at certain places but those are normal. |
Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero
(Post 13352222)
I find this almost impossible to believe. Perhaps it depends on what you consider being scammed, I guess. Does the taxi driver who charges you a flat $15, instead of a fare that should be $10, scam you. Of course.
And in most scammers eyes, the best scams are the ones that people don't even realize. I've been to 50+ countries, and most of the rip offs are taxi related. I've had taxi meters which run twice as fast as normal, switching out real money for counterfeit. Lots of other little rip offs, but I either ignore them, or figure some way around them 99% of the time. Some that people think are scams, such as the table charge for bread and snacks, are just the norm in certain countries. In my opinion, even things like a hotel offering to charge your bill in US dollars, which ends up in a double conversion rate, at bad terms, is a scam. |
Originally Posted by kitsura
(Post 13352275)
More taxi related scams. In China make sure to give taxi drivers small change or read out the serial number of 100RMB notes you hand over. What some of them will do is switch out your real currency for a counterfeit and ask you for another note. Rinse and repeat until all your notes have been switched.
In Singapore some taxis especially the Mercedes limousine ones will hang out at popular drinking holes and then quote you a fixed price to your destination. Never accept the price they give. All taxis regardless of make and model charge by the meter in Singapore. My policy: anyone approaching me with an offer doesn't have my best interests in mind. |
Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 13352889)
A good rule of thumb is to ALWAYS travel in a licensed and metered cab. There are gypsy cabs all over the world. That doesn't mean you have to take them.
My policy: anyone approaching me with an offer doesn't have my best interests in mind. |
Originally Posted by kitsura
(Post 13353091)
The Mercedes Limousines are licensed cabs. They even have the signs attached on the roof that says so. It's just that due to the fact they are a more expensive model than other Toyota cabs some people assume that a fixed charge is okay when it really is not.
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Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 13352876)
And I've never had a hotel offer to do that. I would have known right away that was a scam.
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Originally Posted by jpatokal
(Post 13353759)
It's even more complicated than that. If you take a limo from the airport, or order a limo in advance, it is fixed charge -- during the day, a flat $35 to anywhere in Singapore, to be precise. The only times when a limo has to use the meter are when they're in a taxi queue or taking fares off the street.
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Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 13354047)
DCC has recently started picking up steam in China; I'd be surprised if you don't encounter it during 2010.
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I frequently stay in Shenzhen hotels and sometimes they try to charge me in SGD because my credit card is issued in SG. I guess if you're using a US CC they might try to charge you in USD but I wouldn't consider it a scam.
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Originally Posted by kitsura
(Post 13355062)
I frequently stay in Shenzhen hotels and sometimes they try to charge me in SGD because my credit card is issued in SG. I guess if you're using a US CC they might try to charge you in USD but I wouldn't consider it a scam.
Some of the worst cases are when the rates are in USD (outside the US). They convert USD>Local>USD. I've had hits of up to 10% using these methods. This is not new. I've had it happen in restaurants in the UK a few years ago, and in hotels and hospitals in BKK and other Asian countries. |
Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 13352889)
My policy: anyone approaching me with an offer doesn't have my best interests in mind.
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I do wonder at the people who claim never to have been scammed. Perhaps they've just never noticed that they've been scammed. It's rife. It's unavoidable. Anyone, for example, who claims always to have had a metered taxi ride on arrival at an airport has simply not travelled much. There are plenty of places where you cannot - absolutely cannot - get a taxi to use a meter. Never heard of anyone offering to convert a credit card bill into another currency? It happens all the time, has done for years, and in a variety of different types of shop, hotel or restaurant. Never been quoted prices in one currency and the bill comes in a different one? Really? Never been handed the wrong change - or just never counted it?
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