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Is this for Real?
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No, it's real. An airport called SXM
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Yes
Yes, I believe it is real. It's some island in the Carribean, I think it is St Juliana airport at St Maartin in the Dutch Antilles.
If you go here http://www2.airliners.net/ and do a search on St Maartin, you'll probably find hundreds of fantastic photos I think it is one of the best places in the world to plane spot. I'd hope the travel agents advise holiday makers that some aircraft noise is likely :D |
If it's the almost-over-water landing that impresses you, you don't need to go to all the way to the Caribbean. The approach into LGA can get closer to the water than that.
Of course, there's no good plane spotting location there, except the adjacent island which is the NYC prison on Rikers Island. |
Videos
If you do a video search at www.flightlevel350.com for the airport mentioned above, you cen see videos of approached.
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Same place, even lower.
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5764896 http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5763051 |
Originally Posted by tev9999
Same place, even lower.
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5764896 http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5763051 |
Originally Posted by Sunnyhere
Holy Cow!!!
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Originally Posted by russmeyergirl
What incredible photos - thanks for sharing. Note to self: do not go to St Maartens.
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Originally Posted by tev9999
Same place, even lower.
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5764896 http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5763051 |
Originally Posted by Sunnyhere
LOL...my reaction was just the opposite!
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Yeah I've seen those shots on a.net in the past. Even more astounding than Kai Tak.
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Not as dramatic as SXM but still nice - WLG and another over the surf.
I like these ones of ZQN - final approach, looking down on the airport |
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Originally Posted by dbuckho
Great videos! I almost didn't realize at first while intently watching the videos that some of the women are topless :confused: Then again, sorry to say perhaps these women should have definitely remained clothed :rolleyes: |
I used to have a photo taken from that beach of a KLM 747 about to land (wasn't my photo, I've never been there but want to go! :) ) on my computer desktop at work. I got a few questions about whether it was real.
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Originally Posted by russmeyergirl
What incredible photos - thanks for sharing. Note to self: do not go to St Maartens.
There's a little restaurant just down from this location and we'd go there for lunch and watch the planes landing. The funny part was always the new arrivals who didn't know jets would be flying directly over them and didn't get out of the way. Takeoffs from that end - engine power with brakes on (need a fast climb due to the mountain on the island) was interesting for folks who forgot to get out of the way also. |
This is at Maho beach in St. Maarten. KL still offers the 747 service, but I think AF has switched to a 343. The 747 flights have to make a refuel stop in Curacao as they can't take off with a full fuel load!
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Originally Posted by CPRich
The landing's no worse than LGA or SFO and SM is a great little island. The beach in the lower left corner of the Air France shot was nice, and travelling up to the French side there's a great little town, shops, etc.,
There's a little restaurant just down from this location and we'd go there for lunch and watch the planes landing. The funny part was always the new arrivals who didn't know jets would be flying directly over them and didn't get out of the way. Takeoffs from that end - engine power with brakes on (need a fast climb due to the mountain on the island) was interesting for folks who forgot to get out of the way also. LGA is much like SXM, because both airports have short runways (SXM: 7,054 ft, while LGA's two runways (4/22 & 13/31) are both 7,000 ft. long). The difference is that LGA has the most elaborate navigational aid to assist pilots landing, the ILS (Instrument Landing System). The basic difference, is that ILS provides pilots with both horizontal and vertical data, to ensure precise approachs. SXM has only VOR/DME approaches. This is means pilots have to eyeball their vertical approach. Especially on the heavies, this means most pilots tend to approach low because they are concerned about overshooting the short runway once they've landed. Regarding SFO, it's also an overwater landing on most approaches, but SFO has ILS and much longer runways (the longest, 10L/28R is 11,870 ft long). Also, the runways at SFO are much wider than either SXM or LGA. Another good landing is next door to SXM, it's the runway 10 approach at St Barts. The runway is up against a hill and the final involves a steep dip past the hill to the runway. Fun! Here's a link to some video: http://civilizedexplorer.phanfare.co.../23700/1069046 |
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Here's a couple more of that really low KLM action:
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5769968 http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5769962 |
WOW!!!
I considered going to SXM for our Honeymoon but decided on OGG instead...Wish I'd known I could get that close to the landing approach we would have definitely gone to SXM. Looks like a great place for our 1 year anniversary!!! |
Those are some stunning shots, thanks to everyone for posting the links.
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Originally Posted by CPRich
Takeoffs from that end - engine power with brakes on (need a fast climb due to the mountain on the island) was interesting for folks who forgot to get out of the way also.
http://www.break.com/index/plane_blows_beach_away.html |
Originally Posted by KMHT FF
Those onlookers are nuts for standing there - if a plane does a go-around they are pretty much toast blasted out to sea.
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Keep in mind that a zoom lens will make objects appear closer than they actually are. That doesn't change the fact that the runway is close to the beach, but that the plane and people may not be as close to each other as they appear.
Some very impressive pictures regardless. |
Originally Posted by BlackBird
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I thought that touching down before the displaced threshold was a no-no, whatever the reason? Something to do with pavement loadings not always being up to the same level as on the runway proper. |
Originally Posted by Globaliser
Looks like he wasn't many feet away from doing some nasty damage to his gear and tyres.
I thought that touching down before the displaced threshold was a no-no, whatever the reason? Something to do with pavement loadings not always being up to the same level as on the runway proper. Looking at the phot closely, and remembering the layout, I think he's still 50 feet or so in the air and not yet over land. The compressed point-of-view of the lens makes it appear that the wheels are about to touch down on the very right edge of the runway. In fact, the wheels and right of the runway are just in a line when the picture was shot. I suspect he will pass over the fence just to the right of the small group of spectators on the left. Another famous example - these planes aren't actually crashing - http://www.jetphotos.net/images/l/LH....jpg.60983.jpg - the United flight is several hundred feet ahead of the other jet - they're just inline with the camera. |
Originally Posted by tev9999
Same place, even lower.
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5764896 http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5763051 Ok - you got me. Wow! That is neat! |
Originally Posted by Globaliser
I thought that touching down before the displaced threshold was a no-no, whatever the reason? Something to do with pavement loadings not always being up to the same level as on the runway proper.
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Originally Posted by LarryJ
The displaced threshold is due to obstacles in the approach path.
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St Maarten is a really neat trip. There is a bar at the end of the runway that you can see in the photos called the sunset beach bar, which is a great place to drink beer and watch the planes come and go.
They even have speakers on their deck which broadcast the ATC traffic. The heavies come and go between about 1200 and 17-1800 timeframe. All day you get the silly little Carib air puddle jumpers. AF flies the A340, Corsair and KLM both run 747s in and out, US-DL-AA all run 757 service, and CO flies both 757s and 737s in / out. Great fun for an afternoon. |
Originally Posted by Globaliser
So it's OK to touch down on the underrun area here, then?
Wouldn't be the first time someone touched down a little early, though... |
Originally Posted by KMHT FF
Those onlookers are nuts for standing there - if a plane does a go-around they are pretty much toast blasted out to sea.
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