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JoshKleiman Jun 15, 2006 8:47 pm

Noise on the Beechcraft
 
I haven't been able to find a post related to the exposure of high noise levels on an aircraft but I was curious if there were any health standards/concerns about the noise levels a passenger is exposed to on an airplane such as the Beechcraft?

I would imagine someone exposed to this much noise over a prolonged amount of time might suffer from hearing loss.

Any thoughts?

Q Shoe Guy Jun 15, 2006 8:54 pm

Wouldn't this be better suited on Travelbuzz?

BoyAreMyArmsTired Jun 15, 2006 9:12 pm

I flew a couple of months ago on a Beech from YYZ to MHT and I get them always from YYC to YQL. The deafening noise is almost as bad as the porta potty (I just couldn't wait once....eeew!).

taupo Jun 15, 2006 10:23 pm

I have been on countless Beechcraft flights and have not noticed them to be any noisier than expected.

To answer the OP's question. Given the amount of time you will spend on one, you have far more important things to worry about.

ac777 Jun 15, 2006 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by taupo
I have been on countless Beechcraft flights and have not noticed them to be any noisier than expected.

To answer the OP's question. Given the amount of time you will spend on one, you have far more important things to worry about.

I agree totally!! I travel on the Beechcrafts regularly and the noise is not the biggest worry. Also, everybody gets an aisle and a window seat ( 1A and 1B windows do not have outside view :D )

cur Jun 16, 2006 1:26 am


Originally Posted by JoshKleiman
I haven't been able to find a post related to the exposure of high noise levels on an aircraft but I was curious if there were any health standards/concerns about the noise levels a passenger is exposed to on an airplane such as the Beechcraft?

I would imagine someone exposed to this much noise over a prolonged amount of time might suffer from hearing loss.

Any thoughts?

I'd worry more about the amount of radioactivity a pax is exposed to on an aircraft.

Ford Prefect Jun 16, 2006 7:06 am

I wouldn't
 

Originally Posted by cur
I'd worry more about the amount of radioactivity a pax is exposed to on an aircraft.

I seem to recall having read an article in the past couple of years that radiation exposure during a flight is not considered to be significant and more of an urban legend. I believe it looked at health outcomes in FAs and pilots compared to non-flyers and found no differences in cancer rates. I could be wrong as this is a vague memory. I am an infrequent flyer and have no worries.

I would be more worried about hearing loss. I have a friend who is an audiologist who states that research shows progressive hearing loss and inner ear damage does occur with chronic exposure to elevated noise levels. He's not talking about Pink Floyd rock concerts or using a jack hammer either. Even a moderately elevated chronic noise enviroment will result in long term hearing deficits.

Wear ear plugs if it bothers you.

Anyone know if the Beechcraft are louder than Dash 8s. Never flown on one, but the Dash is very loud, although fun to fly in.

Ford

eastcoastcan Jun 16, 2006 7:17 am


Originally Posted by Ford Prefect
Anyone know if the Beechcraft are louder than Dash 8s. Never flown on one, but the Dash is very loud, although fun to fly in.

Beech is much louder in my opinion. The only thing louder is being in a seat next to the engines on a British Aerospace plane when landing. 100% reverse thrust to stop the plane.

Dash 8s aren't that fun to fly in really. Try doing 2.5 hours YYG-YUL. It gets a little old.

Randy Petersen Jun 16, 2006 9:21 am

Let's see if all the members of FlyerTalk have any information on this topic. There are a few threads in TravelBuzz! that post about noise on an airplane, but generally they are related to noise in front of the engine or behind the engine.

Anyway, TravelBuzz! is exactly the correct forum for these types of questions. Thank you.

greggwiggins Jun 16, 2006 11:19 am

The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration has published a pilot safety brochure on the subject of aircraft noise.

canuck_in_pa Jun 16, 2006 11:26 am

I wouldn't be surprised if it caused some hearing losses. I did get some when I did my pilot training on a Cessna 152, with David-Clark headsets on.

I always use ear plugs on the B1900. Also, I avoid seats in front since you're right between the props. I'm usually row 7+.

YQQgirl Jun 16, 2006 11:45 am


Originally Posted by eastcoastcan
Beech is much louder in my opinion. The only thing louder is being in a seat next to the engines on a British Aerospace plane when landing. 100% reverse thrust to stop the plane.

Dash 8s aren't that fun to fly in really. Try doing 2.5 hours YYG-YUL. It gets a little old.

I'll second the Beech being much louder than the Dash, I often have to fly both to get from YGK to YQQ and the difference is VERY noticable

Kiwi Flyer Jun 16, 2006 4:51 pm

Speaking of beech flights I get to be a pax on one dodging the thunderstorms shortly - should be fun!

JoshKleiman Jun 16, 2006 5:50 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
Speaking of beech flights I get to be a pax on one dodging the thunderstorms shortly - should be fun!

The obstacle course is always a fun ride!!! Enjoy!

rkkwan Jun 16, 2006 6:35 pm

Er... How about the Boston subway? My local bus? Last rows on a DC-9/MD-80? And since the range of a Beech 1900 is much shorter than say a ERJ-145XR, riding thd later may be more hazadous.

Anyways, I always travel with good noise-cancelling or noise-isolating headphones. If you worry about your hearing, you should get a good pair.

JT8D-217 Jun 16, 2006 7:31 pm

Noise??? Hell, worry about the 20 year old ERAU grad flying the thing.
If a 1900 serves a route, it means just one thing: it's not too far to drive.

cur Jun 17, 2006 8:18 pm


Originally Posted by Ford Prefect
I seem to recall having read an article in the past couple of years that radiation exposure during a flight is not considered to be significant and more of an urban legend.

So, if radiation exposure on aircraft actually exists (which it does, unless you're the kind that believes a 757 never flew into the pentagon), how is it an urban legend?

You get more radiation on an aircraft than operating an x-ray machine. Of course it's a negligble amount. But I said that to give effect to the fact that losing hearing while being on the beechcraft is such a minor issue, IMO.

allen074 Jun 17, 2006 8:22 pm

Which US carriers fly this aircraft?

Kiwi Flyer Jun 17, 2006 8:22 pm


Originally Posted by JoshKleiman
The obstacle course is always a fun ride!!! Enjoy!

It was fun, although slightly concerned by the extra 20 minutes flying it took to get back into the headwinds since route is getting out towards the range for the a/c.

rkkwan Jun 17, 2006 10:49 pm


Originally Posted by allen074
Which US carriers fly this aircraft?

One "big" operator is Gulfstream International, which operates as Continental Connection in Florida and the NE, as well as for other airlines.

Not US, but Air Canada has several feeder airlines that fly them down to the US, as well as domestically.

LarryJ Jun 18, 2006 12:10 pm


Originally Posted by cur
You get more radiation on an aircraft than operating an x-ray machine.

That is misleading. An Xray concentrates the radiation in a small area of the body. The radiation you receive while flying is spread out over the entire body so the amount of radiation received at any one point of the body is much less than what you get from an Xray.

canuck_in_pa Jun 18, 2006 4:38 pm


Originally Posted by rkkwan
One "big" operator is Gulfstream International, which operates as Continental Connection in Florida and the NE, as well as for other airlines.

Not US, but Air Canada has several feeder airlines that fly them down to the US, as well as domestically.

Another one is Skyway Airlines (Midwest Express Connection).

rkkwan Jun 18, 2006 5:18 pm

Great Lakes, mostly out of Denver (don't ask how), is another large one with the B1900.

jimcfsus Jun 18, 2006 5:57 pm

Colgan has them for EAS service under US Express in the east.


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