Yeah I can smell it on clothes and in the air and it makes me ill.

I find the image of someone going to such lengths pathetic...no different than a junkie shooting up under a bridge.

Chew some nicotine gum...deal...or better yet quit but my god have some self respect.

I'm a nonsmoker. My roommate smokes. I go anywhere near him or his stuff, which inevitably happens because I ALWAYS run out of ink the night before a paper's due, I can smell the smoke. It's like a bad slap in the face. And he only smokes outside.

If someone had been smoking in an airplane bathroom, and I went in after them, I'd definitely notice.

Smoking within the confines of our suite is the ONLY thing I don't allow my roommates to do (they ask if it's okay and I of course respond that it's not). I don't mind if they get shitfaced, or fall down the stairs or take hallucinogenic tea and get high as kites, as long as they don't smoke cigarettes.

Not really. What's sad is that nonsmokers will throw a fit over something that really doesn't amount to much of anything. I haven't smoked for over 15 years, but I don't believe for a minute that somebody smoking in an airplane lavatory is going to endanger my health (unless they throw a smoldering cigarette butt in the waste bin and it catches the plane on fire).

Way to miss the point...and defend a nasty drug addiction.

Since it's hard to reason with junkies about their addiction, these threads rarely lead to insightful results.

Agreed...my emotion got the best of my logic...thanks for reminding me some things can't be reasoned with.

As a long time smoker, I don't quite see why my smoking berthren (and sistren...) can't just hold off on the puffing for a few hours. Even on a 14 hour SYD-SFO run, it's not a particularly difficult endeavour. When spending time with my virulently antismoking in-laws, I occasionally have to go days without a smoke, which while moderately unpleasant, isn't overly difficult.

Then again, I only smoke outside as I don't like the lingering smell, I'd never smoke in a plane even if I could, so what do I know...

Two weeks ago on a FCO-PHL flight somebody had a cigarette in the aft bathroom. When we landed in PHL, the flight attendents made an announcement to stay seated because of an "incident"

Two of Philly's finest came on and escorted a 20ish girl and her parents (I think) off the plane. She was screaming in Italian the whole way off the plane. While we were walking to customs we passed her, her parents, two Philly cops and two USAir employees. Didn't look like fun!

Later, talking to some folks who were in coach, they said that she went and had a cigarette twice during the flight.

I smoke, but wow...if you can't last for 11 hours you are really addicted! I seem to recall that the fine is $5000. That's an expensive habit!

No kidding...that's what, 50k/pack? Pretty high, even by today's standards! ;)

I have never personally smelled smoke on a plane either....i have flown all over the world....whatever language or choice of words they are using or whether they are being redundant or not, i think that people are pretty much getting the idea....sometimes it is better repeat statements, than to assume that people are going to listen the first time....nothing wrong with that, right?

I was flying YYZ-YVR a couple of months ago and because I'd talked my way onto an earlier flight, ended up sitting about 3 rows away from one of the lavs. About 4 hours into the flight, my seatmate and I looked at each other in surprise, both having smelled the unmistakable odour of cigarette smoke coming out of the washroom. We were both frequent business travellers and this was the first time for both of us we had noticed an on-board smoker. Despite the FAs knowing about it, no announcement was made and nothing happened upon landing, which was disappointing. There was no AVOD on that plane and a good old-fashioned security takedown would have added a bit of entertainment value!

I would have loved to have seen the offender located and prosecuted...why is it that when there are laws in place for good reasons people seem to be able to always skirt them with no consequence yet the inane stuff like the TSA search nonsense is enforced religiously?

Smokers are very bad about ignoring anyone's wishes but their own...ie tossing the butts on the ground rather than in a receptacle...smoking even when the law or people are against it...smoking when pregnant etc....disgusting lot.

the non-smoking on board to me is simply a safety matter. if airlines did it right and had properly (n.b. properly) recirculated air, you could smoke on-board but as i said, to me it's a safety matter. what's the worst thing that can happen on-board an a/c or a ship (i.e. a confined space). fire. goalie-sis from here years in the uscg has shared some pretty scary things about fire on-board a ship and airplane-not pretty.

now, as to smokers being very bad about ignoring anyone's wishes but their own-not all of us.... :)

i am a smoker but i am a considerate smoker. simply put, if in a non-smoking environment, i don't smoke or go outside. if there is a smoking section, and i'm with a group, i will sit in the non-smoking section as it is not fair to the others. i do not drop the used/spent butts on the ground-they go (and belong) in an ashtray or trash barrel. as to smoking while pregnant, being of the wrong chromosome ;) i will simply say, if you're pregnant and want to smoke, then let me offer you some coke as well cuz you're a moron ;)

now as to no smoking laws....that could be an omni issue ;). some are good (and rightly so) and some are moronic (rightly so). should you smoke at/in a workplace-no. should you be be prevented from smoking within so many feet of a building entrance-yes, should you be prevented from smoking in an open/outside space (i.e walking on the sidewalk, in a park, or at the beach)-no as it's outside and my cigarette does far less damage than a diesel bus or truck. but like i said, this could be omni-fodder :)