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anamaniac Dec 1, 2005 12:49 am

General Rant
 
Just thought I'd rant about my recent frustrations -- actually it may seem more like whining, but thought I'd do it anyways, just to release some steam and maybe get some opinions while I am at it.

So I am planning on getting married next year around the August timeframe, and I decided to see what I should do for a honeymoon. Being a workaholic and what-not, I rarely get to take a long time off work. But due to circumstances and the fact that I am getting married, I decided to take anywhere from 3-4 weeks off. I know that may not seem like much to others, but it is a long time for me to take off in one stretch.

Anyways, so I decided to look for spots to go to based on some criteria:
1. I should have never travelled to that destination before (eliminates all of Western Europe, some eastern Europe, India, Nepal, Thailand, Hong Kong, Japan, some parts of Mexico, USA, Canada).
2. It should be something exotic
3. I have to visit a nice (non-overcrowded, non-big city) beach resort (white sand, clear water) for a week or so (think Tahiti, Carribean etc.)
4. The rest of the weeks should be spent advenventuring -- I am fine if I stay in B&Bs, drive around in a rental and visit spots)
5. None of the weeks should be spent in anything under 15-20 degrees (celsius).
6. The final price of the trip should not be something outrageous (under 15k is OK).

(BTW, I live in Western USA).

My first idea was to go to Tahiti and New Zealand. This was perfect since a large number of flights to NZ stopover in Tahiti. However NZ is damn cold in August so that idea went out the window. I have considered Australia instead, but for some reason Australia does not seem exotic to me...not sure why.

South America is good, but then I dont know where to go for a beach resort.

Africa is good, but again the beach resort problem + I believe expenses climb rapidly.

Anyways, I am almost giving up on the idea that I can achieve all of the above and probably just going to settle on a 1 week vacation in one place like Tahiti...

Just thought I'd rant... :)

scirel Dec 1, 2005 12:59 am

Gee, I saw the thread title and thought it would be about some military commander. I had this image in my head of "General Rant" shouting at "Major Complaint" ;)

Seriously, though, you should check out Bermuda. My wife and I went there for our honeymoon. It seems to meet your criteria, although we went in May...I don't know what August temps are like. We had the time of our life and can't wait to go back.

And congrats on getting hitched!

ILuvParis Dec 1, 2005 1:35 am


Originally Posted by anamaniac
Just thought I'd rant about my recent frustrations -- actually it may seem more like whining, but thought I'd do it anyways, just to release some steam and maybe get some opinions while I am at it.

So I am planning on getting married next year around the August timeframe, and I decided to see what I should do for a honeymoon. Being a workaholic and what-not, I rarely get to take a long time off work. But due to circumstances and the fact that I am getting married, I decided to take anywhere from 3-4 weeks off. I know that may not seem like much to others, but it is a long time for me to take off in one stretch.

Anyways, so I decided to look for spots to go to based on some criteria:
1. I should have never travelled to that destination before (eliminates all of Western Europe, some eastern Europe, India, Nepal, Thailand, Hong Kong, Japan, some parts of Mexico, USA, Canada).
2. It should be something exotic
3. I have to visit a nice (non-overcrowded, non-big city) beach resort (white sand, clear water) for a week or so (think Tahiti, Carribean etc.)
4. The rest of the weeks should be spent advenventuring -- I am fine if I stay in B&Bs, drive around in a rental and visit spots)
5. None of the weeks should be spent in anything under 15-20 degrees (celsius).
6. The final price of the trip should not be something outrageous (under 15k is OK).

(BTW, I live in Western USA).

My first idea was to go to Tahiti and New Zealand. This was perfect since a large number of flights to NZ stopover in Tahiti. However NZ is damn cold in August so that idea went out the window. I have considered Australia instead, but for some reason Australia does not seem exotic to me...not sure why.

South America is good, but then I dont know where to go for a beach resort.

Africa is good, but again the beach resort problem + I believe expenses climb rapidly.

Anyways, I am almost giving up on the idea that I can achieve all of the above and probably just going to settle on a 1 week vacation in one place like Tahiti...

Just thought I'd rant... :)

Can't really add much here but that it sounds like a match made in heaven.

KathyWdrf Dec 1, 2005 1:58 am


Originally Posted by ILuvParis
Can't really add much here but that it sounds like a match made in heaven.

:D

I was going to ask what the OP's fiance(e)'s ideas were on the subject, but I think you've nailed it! ;)

missydarlin Dec 1, 2005 2:08 am

Costa Rica or Bali

alanR Dec 1, 2005 3:12 am

1) Tanzania safari followed by Zanzibar

2) Sir Lanka - if you time it right you may be in Kandy for the Esala Perahera

3) Reunion & Mauritius

4) Egypt / Jordan / Israel (extremely hot & the beaches aren't much cop)

jpatokal Dec 1, 2005 6:27 am

Malaysia (peninsular East Coast -- Tioman, Redang, Perhentians -- or Borneo) or Indonesia (Bali, Bali, Bali!) would seem to fit all your criteria. I'd also have suggested Okinawa, which is quite different from mainland Japan, but August isn't the best time of year to go unless you like pressure cookers with the occasional typhoon.

AC110 Dec 1, 2005 7:18 am

Morocco, hands down. http://web2.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=301347.

Someone mentioned Jordan; Petra, in southern Jordan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petra%2C_Jordan) has to be seen to be believed. The town of Wadi Mousa, a short walk from Petra, has at least one decent hotel (I stayed at the Movenpick and it was quite nice.) Allow no less than one full day (stay 2 nights) though I've been told that you can spend 5 days there and not see anything twice.

Enjoy!

candaceg Dec 1, 2005 8:58 am

How about Belize? There are great opportunities to combine adventure travel and a beach vacation. We're headed there for a delayed honeymoon in late January.

JuneGem Dec 1, 2005 9:17 am

As already mentioned Costa Rica and Belize are good choices, as are Chile and Turkey! They would each pretty much satisfy all your requirements. Since you plan on 3-4 weeks and you like to explore, Bermuda (as someone else suggested) would most probably be too limiting.

BamaVol Dec 1, 2005 9:48 am


Originally Posted by scirel
Gee, I saw the thread title and thought it would be about some military commander. I had this image in my head of "General Rant" shouting at "Major Complaint" ;)

... with Private Moment over in the corner just observing. :D

Efrem Dec 1, 2005 10:26 am

Wasn't General Rant the last Northern commander-in-chief during the U.S. Civil War?

FlyinHawaiian Dec 1, 2005 10:40 am

I believe there is a colonel of truth here.

TMOliver Dec 1, 2005 10:51 am

Rolling in Laughter.....
 
"Snippagio Grandioso"

I am overcome with delirious howls of mirth at the perspective of a grand Blivet....

Hey, guy, here at the moement before you enter a contractual attangement in which the only future selections which will be left to you may be the choice of boxers or briefs (and even that uncertain), in which the risk of great mistreatment, disdain by your in laws to be, freezing out of the connubial couch, and the sort of verbal harassment sure to reduce you to a quivering blob of bleeding flesh is immeasurably high if you tattoo indelibly upon your spouse to be any honeymoon choices without more than substantial prior consulation (or for any other "big decisions"), stop a moment before walking off a steep cliff....

Having both honeymooned and taken several second versions thereof, I can assure you your imagination has gotten ahead of your intellect (and capacity for rational thought).

Then there's the matter (unless you've been cohabiting for an extended period) of the connubial couch and adjustment to using the same toilet facilities (and exercise at its worst when conducted in semi-primitive conditions such as a hole in the floor, a bucket of water and a dipper as may be found in a few Sri Lankan and Malayasian resorts).

Luxury, an absence of insect life, pleny of hot water, and a chance for her to see a bit of the world she has not previously experienced ought to be your bywords. Given the season, I might opt for a small ship cruise to Northern Europe, as my favorite Med ports are often unsalubriously torrid in August. In any case , I'd bookend the trip wiith 2 nights in a apir of luxurious hotels, modest suites with tubs designed for mutual bathing/and find the soap submarine exercises....

The inevitable result of unavoidable activities during tropical beach front honeymoons is an ancient condition known as "Sandf in Crack", AKA "Itching & .....ing".

TMO

venice4504 Dec 1, 2005 10:57 am

If I was your fiancee and I stumbled upon your thread I think I'd smack you. Not only are you thinking of just your self and where YOU'D like to go but hello! there is another person in the equation now and maybe you should think about where SHE wants to go. Mybe sitting on a beach in the middle of nowhere isn't her idea of fun. Maybe shopping in some (oh my!) European (!) city that SHE has never been to is what SHE would like to do. Give it up dude...there are two of you now.

Luggage Tag Dec 1, 2005 10:58 am

I can't resist: sounds like a Major Dilemma! :D

ILuvParis Dec 1, 2005 11:06 am


Originally Posted by Luggage Tag
I can't resist: sounds like a Major Dilemma! :D

There is a thread about the worst military move in 2000 years. I think this guy is gonna provide some competition.

amarain Dec 1, 2005 11:37 am

A couple of questions:

1. Why is this a 'frustration'? Most people would be incredibly grateful to have the time, money and opportunity to take a trip like this. What's so terrible that you have to 'rant' about it? :confused:

2. Why no mention of your bride-to-be in the honeymoon plans? Are you assuming that she'll be off with the scuba instructor?

venice4504 Dec 1, 2005 11:39 am


Originally Posted by amarain
Why no mention of your bride-to-be in the honeymoon plans? Are you assuming that she'll be off with the scuba instructor?


Because if he keeps this act up, and she's smart, I have no doubts.

Mikey likes it Dec 1, 2005 11:49 am

:D

Originally Posted by ILuvParis
Can't really add much here but that it sounds like a match made in heaven.

:D

ILP rules!

:D :D

redbeard911 Dec 1, 2005 11:53 am

Hopefully your new wife will meet Colonel Angus on the honeymoon. :D

This thread moves to OMNI in 3...2...

djk7 Dec 1, 2005 12:03 pm

Everyone seems to be assuming that the OP is the groom, rather than the bride. I don't see anything in the original post to support that. Some people may assume it from the tone, or the self-professed workaholism, but I could see this post coming from at least one woman I dated for a while.

amarain Dec 1, 2005 12:06 pm

good point, djk. That is possible. I assumed it was the groom because 1. the groom traditionally pays for the honeymoon and 2. let's face it, this is more typically male behavior than female. When was the last time you heard a woman planning her honeymoon and never once mentioning her future husband?

djk7 Dec 1, 2005 12:18 pm


Originally Posted by amarain
When was the last time you heard a woman planning her honeymoon and never once mentioning her future husband?

True, that normally happens more with the wedding planning.

amarain Dec 1, 2005 12:39 pm


Originally Posted by djk7
True, that normally happens more with the wedding planning.

This may be the first case I've ever seen of Groomzilla!

bspencerco Dec 1, 2005 12:52 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by ILuvParis
Can't really add much here but that it sounds like a match made in heaven.




I was going to ask what the OP's fiance(e)'s ideas were on the subject, but I think you've nailed it!
__________________
Kathy



:D :p :D

venice4504 Dec 1, 2005 12:55 pm

It bugs me that the OP goes AWOL. I want to know more details... :)

anamaniac Dec 1, 2005 1:04 pm


Originally Posted by venice4504
It bugs me that the OP goes AWOL. I want to know more details... :)


LOL... Thanks for all the replies guys. All the helpful and the non-helpful/rude ones too. Anyways, as I said in my original post, it may sound like whining and I realize that I sound like I am making a big deal out of it...

Just as a FYI, All the conditions I mentioned also apply to my fiancee. I have been discussing the whole thing with her and she has equal input. I guess I should have made that clear in my original post (and refrained from saying 'I' and said 'we').

*We* did get a few good ideas out of the post...and *we* are following up on the leads. *We* would like to thank everyone for their useful and useless input.

venice4504 Dec 1, 2005 1:06 pm

You're welcome. Thanks for not ditching us. :)

BamaVol Dec 1, 2005 1:12 pm


Originally Posted by anamaniac
LOL... Thanks for all the replies guys. All the helpful and the non-helpful/rude ones too. Anyways, as I said in my original post, it may sound like whining and I realize that I sound like I am making a big deal out of it...

Just as a FYI, All the conditions I mentioned also apply to my fiancee. I have been discussing the whole thing with her and she has equal input. I guess I should have made that clear in my original post (and refrained from saying 'I' and said 'we').

*We* did get a few good ideas out of the post...and *we* are following up on the leads. *We* would like to thank everyone for their useful and useless input.

Welcome to FT. :) Congratulations, as well. Don't mind us. We're just bored and looking for amusement. The next newb will get the same treatment and you'll get to join in. I see you're already choosing your words more carefully.

anamaniac Dec 1, 2005 1:12 pm


Originally Posted by venice4504
You're welcome. Thanks for not ditching us. :)

Nah... Not *our* style.

amarain Dec 1, 2005 1:59 pm

Seriously, though, what are you so frustrated about? Why the need to rant and let off steam? Because of the terrible inconvenience of planning a trip that costs as much as some people's yearly salaries?

anamaniac Dec 1, 2005 2:04 pm


Originally Posted by amarain
Seriously, though, what are you so frustrated about? Why the need to rant and let off steam? Because of the terrible inconvenience of planning a trip that costs as much as some people's yearly salaries?

Don't get me wrong. I didnt mean to sound ungreatful for what I have or make others feel bad. We are just trying to make the vacation worthwhile since it is a special time, and I guess the thought of perfection enters into everyone's mind when planning for such an event.

BamaVol Dec 1, 2005 2:23 pm


Originally Posted by anamaniac
Don't get me wrong. I didnt mean to sound ungreatful for what I have or make others feel bad. We are just trying to make the vacation worthwhile since it is a special time, and I guess the thought of perfection enters into everyone's mind when planning for such an event.

Actually, not everyone. My honeymoon consisted of 4 days in a Toyota Corolla packed with wedding presents and clothes while we covered 2,000 miles between the wedding and our new home. I still have memories of the time spent with my new bride and am still married and in love 30 years later. I think you need to focus on perfecting the relationship, not the honeymoon. You don't need white sand and blue water to develop the everlasting bond. A honeymoon is just an indulgence. I do approve of travel and relaxation, but don't be focusing your efforts on perfection. You will end up stressed and disappointed over a minor glitch (missed connection, visa problem, lost baggae, etc) at a time when you should be celebrating. I guess A types can't help themselves, but, Dude, chill on this one. OK?

Babaduck Dec 1, 2005 2:36 pm

Having just left the "newlywed" club, I would recommend somewhere to RELAX - she'll be wrecked after all the planning & the buildup to the wedding itself and you really need to use the honeymoon to just kick back and relax, not spend 2 weeks living out of a suitcase (as we did... 4 days here, 7 days there & 3 days elsewhere).

Looking back, we had the most wonderful holiday but I'd probably opt for a lazy-... chilled holiday if I was to do it again.

** Note to self, that's exactly what we're going to do next year - 2 weeks in France with a pool, a bar & a beach within crawling distance**

Lehava Dec 1, 2005 2:47 pm

Are you planning on going alone or only ending up coming back that way?

Flyingmama Dec 1, 2005 3:14 pm

Lol - I'm enjoying this thread tremendously, at the poor OP's expense.

When my husband and I married 32 years ago, we couldn't afford and didn't have a honeymoon. We just got up the next morning and went back to work. In retrospect (and subsequent travels together) that was probably a good thing. As Mark Twain once commented: "I have found out that there ain't no surer way to find out whether you like people or hate them than to travel with them."

AC110 Dec 2, 2005 8:35 am


Originally Posted by BamaVol
Welcome to FT. :) Congratulations, as well. Don't mind us. We're just bored and looking for amusement. The next newb will get the same treatment and you'll get to join in. I see you're already choosing your words more carefully.

Don't sugarcoat it. We eat our children. "All ye who enter here..."
:D

MRKEY Dec 2, 2005 9:35 am


Originally Posted by AC110
Don't sugarcoat it. We eat our children. "All ye who enter here..."
:D

Colonel Sanders ? :D


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