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AC110 Nov 28, 2005 1:45 pm


Originally Posted by brentley
I have yet to see a property that did this. I was speaking soley of interfacing the front desk bound card key systems with the folio managment software. Even the most expensive properties that we sold systems to only hard cardkey systems, not badge reader type systems (which is what wiring every door becomes).

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Brentley

Which makes sense. Even building a new property, I don't really see a net benefit to hardwiring the door locks.

alanh Nov 28, 2005 3:09 pm

The only real advantage to hardwiring the locks would be to lock out someone from the front desk. They can still lock someone out without a wired connection, it just takes a visit to the room. It's probably not worth the cost, considering how seldom this would happen.

Another option would be WiFi if the hotel is already set up for it, but this still means a WiFi reciever in every lock, and a power source for it.

AC110 May 2, 2006 10:33 am

A little update on this thread;

It's become clear on a couple of recent trips that current systems code an expiry date/time on the key. When I've asked for a late checkout I've had to hand over the keys for a new expiry time to be coded onto them.

Fredd May 2, 2006 10:41 am

Snopes and FTers are both great sources for separating facts from myths: ^

http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/hotelkey.asp

AC110 Jul 21, 2006 1:51 pm


Originally Posted by Fredd
Snopes and FTers are both great sources for separating facts from myths: ^

http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/hotelkey.asp

Indeed they are, but I would take this snopes article with a grain of salt. As I mentioned in an earlier post in this thread, as a former hotel manager, I've never heard of any hotel encoding credit card numbers or any other personal information on key cards, nor can I imagine any reason why they would want to do so. That information is stored in the the hotel property management system and would be of no earthly use on the key card.

I can only imagine that much of the information on the Snopes article stems from some sort of a misunderstanding.

alanh Jul 21, 2006 6:29 pm


Originally Posted by AC110
I can only imagine that much of the information on the Snopes article stems from some sort of a misunderstanding.

Er, the Snopes article is actually debunking the story:

Originally Posted by Snopes.com
Claim: Hotel room keycards are routinely encoded with personal information which can be easily harvested by thieves.

Status: False.

In the article, a number of sources are quoted that spread the story, but the commentary on them doesn't support them.

mhenigan Apr 20, 2020 6:45 am

In response to the long ago post (hoping someone still monitors this forum):

"It's become clear on a couple of recent trips that current systems code an expiry date/time on the key. When I've asked for a late checkout I've had to hand over the keys for a new expiry time to be coded onto them."

What is strange is that at a somewhat older motel in Sacramento that I doubt would go to the expense of hardwiring the locks, the key cards cease to work for the rooms I have occupied at perhaps 3:00am rather than at checkout at 11:30am.

When this first happened, I assumed I had been careless and scrambled the magnetically-stored information. It has happened four times. I will be asking the manager about this.

tmiw Apr 25, 2020 8:14 pm

I'm surprised that RFID/Bluetooth locks haven't gained more use since they seem to be harder to clone vs. the magstripe on the current/old style keycards. They also would allow features like being able to unlock your room with your phone (potentially enabling zero contact with any front desk staff).

However, given the sequence number thing OP describes, perhaps the additional cost of the newer locks still isn't justifiable for many hotel locations.

nzed Apr 26, 2020 1:37 am

The RFID system is very expensive. A hotel will usually prolong the life as long as possible and is likely to only consider changing if too many issues are coming up with the older system (e.g. magstripe cards consistently fail to read) and the cost of repairing the lock units starts to outweigh the cost of a new system.

JY1024 Apr 26, 2020 1:36 pm

Given the age of the original discussion, we will archive this thread to prevent confusion and unnecessary discussion about dated information. However, if a member would like to start a new conversation or revive a more recent thread, please feel free to do so. :) /Moderator


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