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hfly Sep 22, 2005 7:35 am

This is stupid. I post from actual fact, not supposition. I was actually going to start posting links but how about this..... there is a site named GOOGLE, try posting something like US-UK dual citizenship, or UK-US dual citizenship, approximately 35 of the FIRST FIFTY, explain everything you need to know in detail.

It would already seem that those that are posting other silly information are being adequately slapped down.

Sjoerd Sep 22, 2005 8:39 am

Quote:
Originally Posted by PhlyingRPh

Obviously, most people will choose to retain their U.S. citizenship.


Originally Posted by senor hamachi
Why is this obvious?

PhlyingPPh obviously is one of the many Americans who falsely believe that the rest of the world, if given the choice, would all move to the US tomorrow. More enlightened Americans have explained to me that many Americans are still being taught / indoctrinated at schools and by their families that the US is by far the "best" place in the world.

ksandness Sep 22, 2005 9:04 am


Originally Posted by Sjoerd
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhlyingRPh
PhlyingPPh obviously is one of the many Americans who falsely believe that the rest of the world, if given the choice, would all move to the US tomorrow. More enlightened Americans have explained to me that many Americans are still being taught / indoctrinated at schools and by their families that the US is by far the "best" place in the world.

Many times I've heard fellow Americans say, "This is the greatest country in the world." However, when I was in Canada a few years back, I heard someone say, "This is *one of the greatest* countries in the world."

I like the latter attitude better.

Kibison Sep 22, 2005 9:08 am

[QUOTE=Hfly, you're right I should have researched and posted info rather than my personal comments/experience. Perhaps you could do us all a favor and post your source? That should help a lot of "inaccurate" people who also posted.[/QUOTE]

Don't let Hfly get your dander up. He always attacks newbies. :o

Mhttoanywhere Sep 22, 2005 10:51 am


Originally Posted by Kibison
Don't let Hfly get your dander up. He always attacks newbies. :o

I suspected that from reading other posts. But I truly would like to see the sources he reviewed for my own info. Perhaps I should renew my British passport when I am there this November.

hfly Sep 22, 2005 11:52 am

I do not always attack newbies, that is crap. I attack wrong information especially when it has no back up whatsoever and I and many others know it to be 100% patently wrong. Obviously as this guy either doesn't know what a websearch is, or is unwilling to use one out of bloodymindedness, there is something very wrong here.

How about this, got a TELEPHONE?? Call the British Embassy and ask for godsake.

GUWonder Sep 22, 2005 12:26 pm

Let's not focus on individuals here and let's not make presumptions about others' thinking and "patterns".

Dual nationality is a possibility for many people (who qualify for such legally)... and even where it is not, some people have passports from "both" countries anyway.

GUWonder Sep 22, 2005 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by Sjoerd
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhlyingRPh

Obviously, most people will choose to retain their U.S. citizenship.



PhlyingPPh obviously is one of the many Americans who falsely believe that the rest of the world, if given the choice, would all move to the US tomorrow. More enlightened Americans have explained to me that many Americans are still being taught / indoctrinated at schools and by their families that the US is by far the "best" place in the world.

Many Americans are taught that the US is the "best" place in the world, but many other countries' citizens are taught that theirs is the "best" place in the world too. Even Indians -- who know their country is still a poor country and has room for improvement -- are often taught "Greatest of all places, India is ours." And then there are some countries whose citizens believe their country was divinely-sanctioned. :eek:

When the option is to have a passport of a country whose citizens can travel and/or work overseas more easily or the passport of a country whose citizens are more often rejected for visas, then it may be obvious for some which passport to choose (if required to choose). PhlyingRPh's posts don't generally strike me as fueling the fires of national chauvinism; and no exception here.

oontiveros Sep 22, 2005 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by Sjoerd
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhlyingRPh

Obviously, most people will choose to retain their U.S. citizenship.



PhlyingPPh obviously is one of the many Americans who falsely believe that the rest of the world, if given the choice, would all move to the US tomorrow. More enlightened Americans have explained to me that many Americans are still being taught / indoctrinated at schools and by their families that the US is by far the "best" place in the world.

Hey take it easy ok? It is not necessary, whatever your beliefs, to display that sort of attitude on this forum.

Good day.

Mhttoanywhere Sep 22, 2005 2:45 pm


Originally Posted by hfly
I do not always attack newbies, that is crap. I attack wrong information especially when it has no back up whatsoever and I and many others know it to be 100% patently wrong. Obviously as this guy either doesn't know what a websearch is, or is unwilling to use one out of bloodymindedness, there is something very wrong here.

How about this, got a TELEPHONE?? Call the British Embassy and ask for godsake.


Look, I don't have to call anyone or research anything. I already have both passports, I have already been told I can have dual nationality. I'm okay with that. All I did was make a comment about my personal experience, which was that I was TOLD at the ceremony for my US citizenship in 2002 that our January group was one of the first under the new laws. If I was given wrong info it is not going to affect me at all. My suggestion was to post your links for those who need to know and could be affected.

Sjoerd Sep 22, 2005 5:50 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder
When the option is to have a passport of a country whose citizens can travel and/or work overseas more easily or the passport of a country whose citizens are more often rejected for visas, then it may be obvious for some which passport to choose (if required to choose).

A British passport (or other West-European passport) is as good as a US one (or even better) in terms of visa-free travel.
And in terms of working and living abroad, a British passport gives you the automatic right to live and work in 28 countries (EU + Iceland, Switzerland and Norway) + probably a few Commonwealth countries, whereas a US passport gives you the automatic right to live and work in ... 1 country. Seems an easy choice to me!

Sjoerd Sep 22, 2005 5:50 pm


Originally Posted by oontiveros
Hey take it easy ok? It is not necessary, whatever your beliefs, to display that sort of attitude on this forum.
Good day.

Huh? What sort of attitude?

erik123 Sep 22, 2005 7:20 pm

You could conceivably have quadruple citizenship - e.g. Italian, UK, USA and one bought in belize for $50,000 (if I recall correctly) . All perfectly legal - and that's just for starters.

BigFlyer Sep 22, 2005 11:56 pm

Is there some sort of secret competition going on in this thread to see who can give the most wrong information in the most authoritative sounding way?

From an official page of the German Foreign Office at http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/www/e...e/faq/kat3/F10:
As well as German nationality, our child has had a second nationality since birth. Does our child have to choose between the two in later life?
No, as far as German law is concerned, if your child automatically had two nationalities at birth, he/she does not have to decide between the two at a later stage. Your child is therefore a permanent holder of dual nationality. In some cases, the law of the other country may however dictate a need to choose.


Originally Posted by SchmeckFlyer
Germany does have this requirement. In fact, the new laws introduced not too long ago actually state that if one does not before the age of 20 inform the authorities of one's intention to keep or relinquish Germany nationality (in favor of another), they will assume one has choosen to relinquish Germany nationality.


oontiveros Sep 23, 2005 1:20 am


Originally Posted by Sjoerd
A British passport (or other West-European passport) is as good as a US one (or even better) in terms of visa-free travel.
And in terms of working and living abroad, a British passport gives you the automatic right to live and work in 28 countries (EU + Iceland, Switzerland and Norway) + probably a few Commonwealth countries, whereas a US passport gives you the automatic right to live and work in ... 1 country. Seems an easy choice to me!

I suppose Americans have their 50 states (your "1 country") plus a few territories (Guam, Saipan, etc) to work in and Europeans have their 25 countries (the size of US states) plus a few other States.

As for easy access to countries, I have worked and traveled to many countries in CEER, EMEA, FSU, Africa, Asia, etc that have no issues with US Passport holders walking in without a visa, or allowing an instant visa issuance. In fact, EU and US passports are roughly on par as far as access to States.

As mentioned above earlier, I have rights to an EU passport but never needed to get one (even despite living in Europe for 4.5 years) as my US Passport has been quite adequate.

Not that one is better than another...and that's my point.


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