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Martinis at 8 Jul 19, 2005 11:38 am

Stop it with the Lagos, Nigeria bashing. I've been there several times and have not had any problems there, ever. No, it's not a touristy town, but I have had good times there with the local people, and also with the expat business community.

I am in Angola right now, and it's okay too.

I also have a residence in Houston, which is a wonderful city, and a well kept secret from the rest of the USA. I was raised for the most part in Los Angeles, and prefer Houston much more to L.A., or other US cities I have lived in such as D.C. and NYC.

M8

HomerJ Jul 19, 2005 1:29 pm

Any place in the plains or the praries..
 
..I just dont do flat well.

infinityplusone Jul 19, 2005 2:03 pm

I've been to Hell twice...
 
I've been both to Hell, MI and Hell, Grand Cayman. Neither were "Hell on Earth", quite the opposite.

I haven't done much international travel (Lagos, Dominican Republic, etc) so my nomination for Hell on Earth would probably be Beaver Falls, PA. Actually Beaver County, PA would fit the bill except for a few spots.
Depressed area, truly part of the "rust belt".
When it snows I don't remember once when the snow was truly white. It was always a dirty grey color. Probably from the numerous incinerators.
Closed down steel mills and people standing on town corners just being unemployed. Depressing. Generational Depression is an interesting topic to study in this area.

Although I have to include as a caveat, that this area is not the worst of all areas as I met mrs. infinityplusone here, before she was mrs. infinityplusone
(Fortunately, neither of us called this place home for more than a couple years).

SJCFlyerLG Jul 19, 2005 3:16 pm


Originally Posted by Martinis at 8
I also have a residence in Houston, which is a wonderful city, and a well kept secret from the rest of the USA. I was raised for the most part in Los Angeles, and prefer Houston much more to L.A., or other US cities I have lived in such as D.C. and NYC.

M8

And I for one am happy to let you keep your secret.

There's nothing quite like the smell of refineries in the morning.

SeAAttle Jul 19, 2005 5:35 pm


Originally Posted by nimeta
Yes - I spent a night there in 1991. Dreadful town!!

The surrounding countryside, including Lake Titicaca is pretty wonderful by contrast!!

Forgot to mention watching two men examining the contents of two brief cases a few tables away in a Puno restaurant one evening. One briefcase was clearly full of money. The other......... They made little attempt to be discreet.

We paid the bill and left.

mlbcard Jul 19, 2005 5:43 pm

How about South Dakota, or any place in the northern plains ... -20 in the winter, over 100 in the summer...

cmarlin Jul 19, 2005 5:46 pm


Originally Posted by ALadyNCal
Um, yeah... I suffer greatly with the hellish conditions here in Laguna Niguel :rolleyes: I don't know how my neighbors in Dana Point survive either...

I also feel your pain up here in Manhattan Beach. I guess when it gets real bad I'll hang out at LAX. I really wonder why the median home price is $1.5, when there are so many better places for a fraction of the price.

thebug622 Jul 19, 2005 6:26 pm


Originally Posted by SJCFlyerLG
Anywhere in southern Alabama comes to mind.

Then there is Elizabeth, NJ - home to more burned-out warehouses than anywhere else in America.

Armento, WY - home of America's finest sheep rodeo.

Mianyiang, China - home to the world's most virulent strain of dysentery. And several samller towns in the area where rope is used for toilet paper.

Rope for toilet paper!! ouch,and I thought the tree bark we use in the North West was primative.I'll never complain again

thebug622 Jul 19, 2005 6:35 pm


Originally Posted by Martinis at 8
Stop it with the Lagos, Nigeria bashing. I've been there several times and have not had any problems there, ever. No, it's not a touristy town, but I have had good times there with the local people, and also with the expat business community.

I am in Angola right now, and it's okay too.

I also have a residence in Houston, which is a wonderful city, and a well kept secret from the rest of the USA. I was raised for the most part in Los Angeles, and prefer Houston much more to L.A., or other US cities I have lived in such as D.C. and NYC. :

M8

I was looking at you resume and I have some prime flood plain land in Dakar that might interest you. :D

diana Jul 20, 2005 2:08 am

My vote goes to Lompoc, California. It is the cesspool of California. I thought it would be nice since there was Vandenberg Air Force Base and Nasa within a few miles. Instead, I found the Medi-Cal (state welfare) fraud capital of the state, thanks to Santa Barbara county and it's lax formulary for welfare drugs. Everyone there gets Soma and Vicodin and a "Jazzy" or something like it (a motorized cart). It's also very windy every day.

My next vote goes to Topeka, Kansas. I'm too tired to go on.

lfasgrl Jul 20, 2005 2:26 am

Missoula, MT Two seasons Fire and fridgid cold

philipperv Jul 20, 2005 3:50 am


Originally Posted by AApokes08
Any city in Southern California is hell on earth! The only thing I like about Southern Cal. is LAX and San Diego Airport.

I 2nd this but don't even like the airports.

civicmon Jul 20, 2005 4:16 am


Originally Posted by mlbcard
How about South Dakota, or any place in the northern plains ... -20 in the winter, over 100 in the summer...

South Dakota has some really beautiful terrain (same with Montana) but weatherwise i hear you.

As for Scranton PA, most of my family is from there (in fact, it's my birthplace :eek: ) but I have mixed feelings about it.. it's getting bouyed by people from NYC and PHL retiring in the area (and commuting too).

It's quiet, safe, but astethically it's fairly depressed... some areas are quite nice though.

JBLUA320 Jul 20, 2005 4:55 am

Odysseus, now I believe there are 4 flights a day from Podgorica-Belgrade where you could pick up more aircraft.. Interesting what you have said about Podgorica, I've heard it's quite nice.

mallthus Jul 20, 2005 5:27 am

Armpit of America
 
You know, it may not be hell, but Battle Mountain, NV advertises themselves as the "Armpit of America". Truth in advertising?

Honestly, all these folks bashing LA, Houston or the rust belt need to visit Fresno for a week in August. Context people, please.


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