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First time ever SSSSSelected as an elite
I've gotten the infamous SSSSSS before, but every time I was able to identify what it was -- usually traveling on a last-minute one-way reservation with an airline on which I am not a regular -- that triggered it. But this morning, I was SSSSSelected on a BOS-LGA US shuttle flight. I am silver preferred on US, booked the flight as part of a round-trip with my corporate travel agent as I always do, and had upgraded to F as I always do (or as I always try to do). I cannot think of anything out of the ordinary about my travel this morning. Maybe some SSSSSs truly are random. Any thoughts?
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Yes. A small number of SSSSes truly are random...perhaps about 10% or so. Of course, the algorithms are SSSSecret so no one knows for sure. I haven't gotten a random SSSS yet...for me, it's always because of "suspicious" one-way tickets and flights on airlines where I have no status (read: LCCs). :rolleyes:
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I've never been SSSS'ed when I wasn't expecting it. I get hit with it about a third of the time I fly WN, and nearly all of my WN segments are last-minute one-way purchases.
Have you ever been at an airport where the regular security line was a mile long, but the SSSS line was very short? I've been tempted to volunteer myself to be SSSS'ed in that case, but I don't think I'd ever do it: that would probably arouse some suspicion. :eek: |
Originally Posted by pinniped
Have you ever been at an airport where the regular security line was a mile long, but the SSSS line was very short? I've been tempted to volunteer myself to be SSSS'ed in that case, but I don't think I'd ever do it: that would probably arouse some suspicion. :eek:
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Originally Posted by Blumie
I've noticed that, at many airports, the SSSSSs are escorted to the front of the line. On Saturday at SFO, I was just about to put my stuff on the belt when a TSAer excorted two SSSSSs in front of me and made me, and everyone else, wait while they stripped down and got their stuff on the belt. (The TSAer wasn't smart enough to let me and the other non-SSSSSs continue through the line while the SSSSSSs were ready to go through; instead the entire line came to a screeching halt while the SSSSSs prepared for their screening.)
When I was last SSSSelected as a Gold Elite flying F out of ABQ, I was sent to the front of the line, then only to wait in a blocked off "penalty box" type of setup surrounded by 4 tables they pulled around us. I waited for a while, then thought I should time it, then waited for 10 minutes more. My companions blew by me in line. Interestingly enough, we discussed giving my carry-ons to them to avoid the extra Mass-Spec Explosive detection & hand search to hopefully speed things up, right in front of security but they didn't seem to care/mind. Great security, eh? All in all, I spent 30 minutes doing a check that was highly redundant and provided no real securit, where it should have taken only 10 minutes or so. Also of note, HP's check in agents refused to deselect me by printing my boarding pass again. Has anybody had a problem with this before? I thought flashing a mid-tier or plat elite card or showing an F boarding pass was enough to get them to consider de-selecting you. I was going to write a comment in about that to their HQ, but forgot. :p |
Yeah, it's weird how when I'm travelling with someone else I can get my friend to take my carryons if I'm SSSSed and thus anything in those carryons won't get searched. :rolleyes: security.
Plus, at some large airports, if your BP shows SSSS the initial agent who checks your BP/ID will tell you to go to lane 1 instead of lanes 2-10, but I've noticed they never look to see where you go, and usually nobody else checks the BP afterwards, so technically an SSSS person could just go in the normal line without much chance of getting caught. |
Originally Posted by bursa
Yeah, it's weird how when I'm travelling with someone else I can get my friend to take my carryons if I'm SSSSed and thus anything in those carryons won't get searched. :rolleyes: security.
Plus, at some large airports, if your BP shows SSSS the initial agent who checks your BP/ID will tell you to go to lane 1 instead of lanes 2-10, but I've noticed they never look to see where you go, and usually nobody else checks the BP afterwards, so technically an SSSS person could just go in the normal line without much chance of getting caught. |
File a complaint every single time you are haraSSSSed.
This disgusting, un-American system needs to be abolished. |
Originally Posted by AgtMulder
Also of note, HP's check in agents refused to deselect me by printing my boarding pass again. Has anybody had a problem with this before? I thought flashing a mid-tier or plat elite card or showing an F boarding pass was enough to get them to consider de-selecting you.
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Originally Posted by bursa
Yeah, it's weird how when I'm travelling with someone else I can get my friend to take my carryons if I'm SSSSed and thus anything in those carryons won't get searched. :rolleyes: security.
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Originally Posted by AgtMulder
Also of note, HP's check in agents refused to deselect me by printing my boarding pass again. Has anybody had a problem with this before? I thought flashing a mid-tier or plat elite card or showing an F boarding pass was enough to get them to consider de-selecting you.
There's no valid reason for SSSSing anyone in cases like this; the passenger profiling system needs to take into account that last-minute one-ways, or any other type of ticket, are not "suspicious." |
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