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coachflyer Feb 22, 2005 10:00 pm

Do "Head of States" need visas - visiting other countries.
 
I am just curious if Presidents, Prime Ministers, etc., need visas when visiting other countries? Once, in Korea, I saw the lone GI, who traveled on the same plane with me, was led away without having to go through immigration.

SonOfACockroach Feb 23, 2005 1:08 am

I think there was a bit of hoopla a couple years ago over the President of Belarus being denied a visa to go to a NATO summit.

GK Feb 23, 2005 1:16 am

i am sure that they need to be 'invited' first before they can make a state visit, and that means being waitlisted no doubt for the busy destinations.

dbuckho Feb 23, 2005 2:57 am

I believe the US issues A-1 diplomatic visas for visiting heads of state from countries requiring visas. I have no idea how it happens - I would imagine it is all taken care of ahead of time and someone from the State Department meets them on arrival. My guess is other countries do the same.

grouse Feb 23, 2005 3:28 am

The Queen of the United Kingdom doesn't even have a passport. Since British passports say something like "her majesty requests... that such-and-such be allowed to travel without hindrance" (paraphrase) there's no point in her having a document that lists her request.

GUWonder Feb 23, 2005 5:34 am


Originally Posted by coachflyer
I am just curious if Presidents, Prime Ministers, etc., need visas when visiting other countries? Once, in Korea, I saw the lone GI, who traveled on the same plane with me, was led away without having to go through immigration.

The formalities are generally taken care of by the appropriate protocol people on the host and home side. This often means the aide(s) handling the paperwork and passports (and often visas) before departure and on arrival; this does not generally or necessarily require personal contact with the general immigration authorities.

It also depends on which countries are being visited and by whom, but this is a subsection of the above.

GUWonder Feb 23, 2005 5:36 am


Originally Posted by GK
i am sure that they need to be 'invited' first before they can make a state visit, and that means being waitlisted no doubt for the busy destinations.

A "state visit" is a particular type of visit and has its own established protocols. Most visits of foreign leaders/head of states/government are not official state visits.

GUWonder Feb 23, 2005 5:38 am


Originally Posted by SonOfACockroach
I think there was a bit of hoopla a couple years ago over the President of Belarus being denied a visa to go to a NATO summit.

There are many such incidents. Being denied transit rights is another one. ;)

empedocles Feb 23, 2005 7:12 am


Originally Posted by grouse
The Queen of the United Kingdom doesn't even have a passport. Since British passports say something like "her majesty requests... that such-and-such be allowed to travel without hindrance" (paraphrase) there's no point in her having a document that lists her request.

This brings up an interesting question. Do "heads of state" even possess passports?

GUWonder Feb 23, 2005 8:01 am


Originally Posted by empedocles
This brings up an interesting question. Do "heads of state" even possess passports?

Generally, yes. All heads of state? I don't know and there may be a few exceptions, but even then most do. Some heads of state even have their personal passports and then their diplomatic ones while others have just the latter.

rkkwan Feb 23, 2005 8:35 pm

Poor President of Taiwan seem to need a visa to go to most countries of the world (except a few island nations in the Pacific). :D

Cascadia Feb 23, 2005 8:44 pm

Castro
 
Don't forget Castro. When he goes to the UN in NYC the US gives him a special visa that only allows him to be in lower Manhattan. Also they give him a "to and from only" to JFK.

GUWonder Feb 23, 2005 9:05 pm


Originally Posted by Cascadia
Don't forget Castro. When he goes to the UN in NYC the US gives him a special visa that only allows him to be in lower Manhattan. Also they give him a "to and from only" to JFK.

Similar restrictions (perhaps different geography) have applied to certain other non-head-of-government/state officials too -- generally officials from not-so-favored nations. ;)

graraps Feb 24, 2005 4:57 am


Originally Posted by grouse
The Queen of the United Kingdom doesn't even have a passport. Since British passports say something like "her majesty requests... that such-and-such be allowed to travel without hindrance" (paraphrase) there's no point in her having a document that lists her request.

So on what basis does she travel to non-commonwealth countries?

UncleDude Feb 24, 2005 5:19 am


Originally Posted by graraps
So on what basis does she travel to non-commonwealth countries?

I cant recall any non-commonwealth country she has ever visited other than on a state visit. Anyhow as the main purpose of a passport is to show and prove your identity and she has her profile on more banknotes, stamps and coins than anybody alive, there's really no need for her to have a passport. :D


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