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Kubla Jul 31, 2003 1:18 pm

Well, I have to admit I wasn't really thinking of any rules for the "Competition," I just wanted to know how nuts we Flyertalkers are when it comes to long road trips.

Now I know: Lex is crazy!


GG Aug 1, 2003 1:14 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Now I know: Lex is crazy!</font>
Perhaps in this case not so much crazy as just persistent. http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttravel_forum/wink.gif And it was hardly a speed run - miles/hours driven works out to an average speed of &lt; 62 mph.

dhammer53 Aug 2, 2003 12:27 am

Try this one...

Which interstate highway starts in one state, goes through another state, then gets back to the original state?

Teaser...the state in the middle is a short drive.

Dan

Canarsie Aug 2, 2003 5:52 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by dhammer53:
Try this one...

Which interstate highway starts in one state, goes through another state, then gets back to the original state?

Teaser...the state in the middle is a short drive.

Dan
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Easy, my fellow Brooklynite...

Interstate 24 is the answer.

If one travels westbound from its terminus at Interstate 75 just outside Chattanooga, Tennessee, it enters Georgia for a couple of miles where it meets Interstate 59 at its northern terminus before re-entering Tennessee and crossing the border for the first time into the Central Time Zone. In fact, before Georgia re-numbered its exits from the static exit number system to the mileage system, Interstate 24 was the only Interstate highway in Georgia that conformed to the mileage system because it simply followed the mileage exit system from Tennessee from either direction.

However, being that Interstate 24 does not begin and end in Tennessee, Dan, and seeing that you reside north of New York City, I suspect you are alluding to Interstate 684. When I traveled on it years ago, it was interesting: by the time I read Welcome to Connecticut, I was back in New York again. Noting that there is no exit in Connecticut on Interstate 684 and I saw what appeared to be nothing but woods on the west side of this highway, this means that that small sliver of Connecticut west of Interstate 684 is actually cut off from the rest of Connecticut, making me wonder to this day if there are any residences or businesses in that tiny portion of Connecticut...

dhammer53 Aug 3, 2003 12:12 am

I-684 is correct.

Sometime during the 80's, when a survey was done, they realized that a tiny sliver of CT, (adjacent to HPN) was actually, well, in CT and not NY. I'm guessing it's about 1 mile.
For a time, any accidents on that stretch were handled by the CT State Police. Not sure about today.



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Canarsie Aug 3, 2003 6:42 am

1.4 miles, to be exact.

I decided to further research Interstate 684. The above link has some interesting information, maps and photographs.

dhammer53 Aug 3, 2003 1:55 pm

That link was very interesting. Thanks.

Dan

Kubla Aug 4, 2003 10:26 am

NY 17 dips into Pennsylvania and back near Waverly. When this section becomes part of the eastern I-86, that will be another answer.

Canarsie Sep 4, 2003 7:08 pm

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Hey — be careful out there...

DaDOKin DC Sep 5, 2003 1:17 am

RE: I-35E and I-35W --

That makes a whole lot more intuitive sense that what we have here in DC. I-270 comes down from Frederick MD to DC. Just before the Capitol Beltway (I-495), it splits into to legs -- "I-270" and "I-270 Spur" -- and ****ed if I can remember which one is which!

Also, the Beltway has designated each 'side' of the highway with the nomenclature 'inner loop' and 'outter loop' of the Beltway. To non-DC'ers it is confusing. But since the road will go North, East, South, or West, it was always confusing to figure out how the REAL highway gods designated the direction at a given exit or point. Using the inner/outter loop makes it bit easier.

Any other Beltway, or Perimeter, Highway use this designation?



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Canarsie Sep 5, 2003 7:29 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by DaDOKin DC:
RE: I-35E and I-35W --

That makes a whole lot more intuitive sense that what we have here in DC. I-270 comes down from Frederick MD to DC. Just before the Capitol Beltway (I-495), it splits into to legs -- "I-270" and "I-270 Spur" -- and ****ed if I can remember which one is which!
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I have been there many times, DaDOKin DC and I know exactly what you are talking about.

Incidentally, the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway (Interstate 278) does the same thing at its northern terminus in the borough of Queens in New York. Both branches of the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway end at the Grand Central Parkway, but the western spur continues the Interstate 278 designation on the Grand Central Parkway on to the Triborough Bridge where it continues into the Bronx, while the eastern spur heads in the direction of LaGuardia Airport.

JS Sep 5, 2003 1:18 pm

I drove to RDU for a flight last weekend, and I noticed this -- there is a short strech of highway in Greensboro, NC that has six highway designations:

I-85
I-40
US 70
US 220
US 29
US 421

I couldn't believe what I was seeing, with all these road signs stuck together. Are there any highways out there with more than 6 highway designations, even if you include state highways?

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Canarsie Sep 5, 2003 6:38 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by JS:
Are there any highways out there with more than 6 highway designations, even if you include state highways?</font>
None come immediately to my mind, JS, but what did immediately come to my mind is the plethora of highway signs that suddenly bombard drivers as one crosses the George Washington Bridge into New Jersey.

There are route markers for at least the following roads:
  • New Jersey Turnpike
  • Garden State Parkway
  • Palisades Interstate Parkway
  • Interstate 95
  • Interstate 80
  • New Jersey State Route 17
  • New Jersey State Route 4
  • New Jersey State Route 67
  • U.S. Route 1
  • U.S. Route 9
  • U.S. Route 46
  • U.S. Route 9W
I am not even sure I am missing any routes from that list, but there they all are, almost all at once, once one is on the New Jersey side of the George Washington Bridge!

I feel sorry for any new driver that is unfamiliar with the area, as it is easy to go in the wrong direction.

Kubla Sep 6, 2003 6:36 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by JS:
I drove to RDU for a flight last weekend, and I noticed this -- there is a short strech of highway in Greensboro, NC that has six highway designations:
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Wow, a six-way multiplex, and I bet that road has an unsigned state number too.

I can't top that, but I did notice another "wrong-way" multiplex the other day. In Tuscaloosa, I-359 and US 11 share the same roadway, but if you are going north on I-359, you're going south on US 11 and vice-versa.

I have driven that road before, but didn't notice it until the other day.


ElmhurstNick Sep 7, 2003 12:06 pm

The wrong-way multiplex that gets me is 580/80 between Oakland and Berkeley. The highway (which actually goes N/S in that stretch) is 580E-80W (going south), and 580W-80E (going north).

In the East Bay, there's also the very amusing I-238, for which I-38 is nowhere to be found, that connects 680 and 880. They use all the x80s from 280 through 980, so they used the old State number instead of 180. That's technically correct, as the 180 designation is supposed to be for a short spur, such as I-380 near SFO or I-190 into ORD. But they could have solved that problem by originally designating 580 as 305, and using 580 where 238 is.


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