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YVR Cockroach Nov 3, 2003 4:55 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by danM:
The way I resolve the Airbus vs. 737 is by the little winglets at the end of the wing for the Airbus,
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Not 100% reliable though it's not a factor in the U.S. Early 320s (-100) didn't have the wingfences.


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(don't see many 321's where I am).</font>
321s have 2 pairs of doors forward of the wing.

YVR Cockroach Nov 3, 2003 4:59 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Human Unit 763246B:
DC-9 vs. MD-80. That's harder. Look at the length, shape of the tail (graceful line in the DC-9 versus and angle near the top of the vertical stabilizer in the MD-80).</font>
The tailcone is a way to tell those apart though but not 100% reliable.

The DC-9s had the rounded tail cone (and rear airstair). Early MD-80s are similar but many of the latter didn't have rear air stairs and the tail cone is more like a flat blade (similar to the 777).


FWIW, the 727s can be mistaken by some for a Hawker-Sidderly Trident though I didn't think any Tridents are stil flying.

Some other easy distinguishing characteristics:

A300/310 - a long ridge in the centre-rear top of the fuselage.

777 - 3 pairs of wheel per main bogey. Flat "blade" tail cone.

rkkwan Nov 3, 2003 5:34 pm

There are several ways to spot a 737. And you can also tell the generations. The -100s and -200s have long cigar-like engines under the wings. The -300s, -400s and -500s' engine cowling is not round, but tapered in the bottom. Other than the -100s and -200s, the vertical stablizer (the tail fin) is not a triangle, but has a leading edge with a shallower slope in the forward portion where it attaches to the fuselage.

The 321 (usually) have 4 doors each side. All are seperated. The 320 also have 4 on each side, but the middle twos are together, over the wings. I believe the 319 and 318 have only one exit over the wing, for 3 total each side.

chexfan Nov 3, 2003 6:45 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by holland:
Does anyone have a pointer to a good reference site with the "common" aircraft? I've been flying for several years and still don't know the difference between a DC9-30,40,50 vs. 727 vs. MD80 vs. etc.... </font>
Sit next to geo1004 from the upperdeck of a 747 at HKG and your brain will become full! http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...um/biggrin.gif

Daydream Nov 3, 2003 7:10 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Doppy:
I've got a friend who worked with one of the airlines on its financial plans. She now recognizes a lot of the planes by their tail numbers, and knows a bit about the history, like:

"That plane's engine was lost for three months."

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eastwest Nov 3, 2003 7:48 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by rkkwan:
The -100s and -200s have long cigar-like engines under the wings.
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FWIW: Those engines are actually turbo-jets, not turbo-fans like all modern jet engines.

superdawg Nov 4, 2003 8:39 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by eastwest:
FWIW: Those engines are actually turbo-jets, not turbo-fans like all modern jet engines.</font>
Actually they are turbofan engines, just not High-Bypass turbofan engines as seen on the majority of todays airliners.

YVR Cockroach Nov 4, 2003 9:19 am

Turbojets were used on the 707s and DC-8s initially though I think most airlines replaced these with early turbofans (Pratt & Whitney JT3s - the design had a fan added to them to make them the JT3D).

FWAAA Nov 4, 2003 9:46 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by terenz:
757s just look narrow, and look at the nose. The nose seems to be lower (to centre) than the 767 (that's why the 757 flight deck floor is a few steps below the main deck).</font>
Exactly.

Another easy way to identify a 757: the 757 has very long landing gear struts (because of its huge engines - it looks much more thin and lanky than the more stout (chubby? husky?) 767. Not quite as high up off the ground as the Concorde, but close. http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...orum/smile.gif

The 757 is the really long, skinny plane. http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...um/biggrin.gif

Swanhunter Nov 4, 2003 11:29 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by FWAAA:

Another easy way to identify a 757: the 757 has very long landing gear struts (because of its huge engines - it looks much more thin and lanky than the more stout (chubby? husky?) 767.

The 757 is the really long, skinny plane. http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...um/biggrin.gif
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I had it described to me by an AA pilot as being like your favourite girlfriend:

Thin body, long legs and a big pair of.....well you can work it out! http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...orum/smile.gif


WHBM Nov 4, 2003 12:18 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by terenz:
FWIW, the 727s can be mistaken by some for a Hawker-Sidderly Trident though I didn't think any Tridents are stil flying.</font>
True. There are however a surprising number of Tridents still laying about various major British airports for training use by the fire departments. I recently saw three in one day, at three different airports.


FWAAA Nov 4, 2003 1:00 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Swanhunter:
I had it described to me by an AA pilot as being like your favourite girlfriend:

Thin body, long legs and a big pair of.....well you can work it out! http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...orum/smile.gif

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Excellent. http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...um/biggrin.gif

Swanhunter Nov 4, 2003 3:36 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by WHBM:

True. There are however a surprising number of Tridents still laying about various major British airports for training use by the fire departments. I recently saw three in one day, at three different airports.

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There is also one painted in BEA colours(British European Airlines, a BA forerunner) parked at the back of the BA hangers at LHR. I think tug drivers use it for practice or something. You can sometimes see it from the Peri Track.



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