Middle seat diaper change
#91
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by divaof travel:
So where do you change the diaper? My wife once tried it on the floor in the back, and the FA told her to do it on the seat.
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So where do you change the diaper? My wife once tried it on the floor in the back, and the FA told her to do it on the seat.
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nigel
#92
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How would you propose that we "license" future parents?
Do you want the TSA to do it? The SEC? The FCC? The FBI? The CIA?
How about bring back the Nazi's? They seem to have the best control on how to breed a superior race, didn't they???
Do you want the TSA to do it? The SEC? The FCC? The FBI? The CIA?
How about bring back the Nazi's? They seem to have the best control on how to breed a superior race, didn't they???
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by corbetti:
Hardly
When people abuse that "freedom" and start imposing their screaming, kicking, brat on my right to a reasonable amount of peace and quiet, then their irresponsibility (you know, with freedom comes responsibility) needs to be addressed.
Being a parent isn't some sainthood or get out of jail free card - like I said before, it's ironic that we need a license to drive but not to have kids.</font>
Hardly
When people abuse that "freedom" and start imposing their screaming, kicking, brat on my right to a reasonable amount of peace and quiet, then their irresponsibility (you know, with freedom comes responsibility) needs to be addressed.
Being a parent isn't some sainthood or get out of jail free card - like I said before, it's ironic that we need a license to drive but not to have kids.</font>
#94
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Obviously an emotive topic but don't for a second think this topic is anything to do with the health risks, because if that was the case HigherFlyer would be equally upset about people sneezing on the plane they travelled in.
So try to get this in perspective and realise that it's all about sensibilities - and some people, like HigherFlyer, are clearly not impressed with seeing a naked and dirty butt in the seat next to them. Equally some parents would never consider changing their baby in front of complete strangers because they realise that, right or wrong, some people DO find it offensive.
I'd be quite happy to have neither the particular mother who the question was first asked about nor HigherFlyer sitting next to me . . .
So try to get this in perspective and realise that it's all about sensibilities - and some people, like HigherFlyer, are clearly not impressed with seeing a naked and dirty butt in the seat next to them. Equally some parents would never consider changing their baby in front of complete strangers because they realise that, right or wrong, some people DO find it offensive.
I'd be quite happy to have neither the particular mother who the question was first asked about nor HigherFlyer sitting next to me . . .
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by kiwibigdave:
Obviously an emotive topic but don't for a second think this topic is anything to do with the health risks, because if that was the case HigherFlyer would be equally upset about people sneezing on the plane they travelled in.
So try to get this in perspective and realise that it's all about sensibilities - and some people, like HigherFlyer, are clearly not impressed with seeing a naked and dirty butt in the seat next to them. Equally some parents would never consider changing their baby in front of complete strangers because they realise that, right or wrong, some people DO find it offensive.
I'd be quite happy to have neither the particular mother who the question was first asked about nor HigherFlyer sitting next to me . . .</font>
Obviously an emotive topic but don't for a second think this topic is anything to do with the health risks, because if that was the case HigherFlyer would be equally upset about people sneezing on the plane they travelled in.
So try to get this in perspective and realise that it's all about sensibilities - and some people, like HigherFlyer, are clearly not impressed with seeing a naked and dirty butt in the seat next to them. Equally some parents would never consider changing their baby in front of complete strangers because they realise that, right or wrong, some people DO find it offensive.
I'd be quite happy to have neither the particular mother who the question was first asked about nor HigherFlyer sitting next to me . . .</font>
Edited for spelling.
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#96
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Talking of an inability to read posts, where did you see it in the topic about faeces on seats except where you wrote it? I also never wrote anything about your preference for babies on planes. What I did write was that some people, and I include you in this group because your own comments reflect it, aren't impressed with a naked and dirty butt in the seat next to them.
Anyway, and as I also wrote, this all really just needs to be put in perspective. You're far more likely whilst airborne to catch the common cold or headlice from your well-mannered fellow passengers than ecoli from a diaper change.
Anyway, and as I also wrote, this all really just needs to be put in perspective. You're far more likely whilst airborne to catch the common cold or headlice from your well-mannered fellow passengers than ecoli from a diaper change.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by kiwibigdave:
Talking of an inability to read posts, where did you see it in the topic about faeces on seats except where you wrote it?</font>
Talking of an inability to read posts, where did you see it in the topic about faeces on seats except where you wrote it?</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by kiwibigdave:
Talking of an inability to read posts, where did you see it in the topic about faeces on seats except where you wrote it? I also never wrote anything about your preference for babies on planes. What I did write was that some people, and I include you in this group because your own comments reflect it, aren't impressed with a naked and dirty butt in the seat next to them.
Anyway, and as I also wrote, this all really just needs to be put in perspective. You're far more likely whilst airborne to catch the common cold or headlice from your well-mannered fellow passengers than ecoli from a diaper change.</font>
Talking of an inability to read posts, where did you see it in the topic about faeces on seats except where you wrote it? I also never wrote anything about your preference for babies on planes. What I did write was that some people, and I include you in this group because your own comments reflect it, aren't impressed with a naked and dirty butt in the seat next to them.
Anyway, and as I also wrote, this all really just needs to be put in perspective. You're far more likely whilst airborne to catch the common cold or headlice from your well-mannered fellow passengers than ecoli from a diaper change.</font>
Edited to add smiley.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by kiwibigdave:
Obviously an emotive topic but don't for a second think this topic is anything to do with the health risks, because if that was the case HigherFlyer would be equally upset about people sneezing on the plane they travelled in.
So try to get this in perspective and realise that it's all about sensibilities - and some people, like HigherFlyer, are clearly not impressed with seeing a naked and dirty butt in the seat next to them. Equally some parents would never consider changing their baby in front of complete strangers because they realise that, right or wrong, some people DO find it offensive.
I'd be quite happy to have neither the particular mother who the question was first asked about nor HigherFlyer sitting next to me . . .</font>
Obviously an emotive topic but don't for a second think this topic is anything to do with the health risks, because if that was the case HigherFlyer would be equally upset about people sneezing on the plane they travelled in.
So try to get this in perspective and realise that it's all about sensibilities - and some people, like HigherFlyer, are clearly not impressed with seeing a naked and dirty butt in the seat next to them. Equally some parents would never consider changing their baby in front of complete strangers because they realise that, right or wrong, some people DO find it offensive.
I'd be quite happy to have neither the particular mother who the question was first asked about nor HigherFlyer sitting next to me . . .</font>
#101
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by erik123:
I hate it when small kids are in the same plane with me on a long-haul flight - especially if they are my own! It's hard to imagine anything more stressful than travelling with your toddlers and a bunch of angry pax.</font>
I hate it when small kids are in the same plane with me on a long-haul flight - especially if they are my own! It's hard to imagine anything more stressful than travelling with your toddlers and a bunch of angry pax.</font>
But many (including me) do draw the line at older children who are misbehaving (you know -- kicking of the seat, flipping the tray up and down 100x, screaming at the top of their lungs because you took a crayon out of their hand) and the parents have not exerted any control over them.
As an aside, -- and very much on point --
I just took took Amtrak from DC to PHL today and was treated with a diaper change a few seats away. The stench filled the car and hung there until I got off the train. Nothing like sitting in what smelled like a back up septic tank for 2 1/2 hours.
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