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businesstraveler Jun 2, 2002 5:51 pm

Currency Conversion - where is best rate?
 
If someone is traveling from the US to France, should they convert dollars to euros in the US or wait until they arrive in France?

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cordelli Jun 2, 2002 7:14 pm

Widthdray money from an ATM in France, if their bank doesn't have a foreign surcharge on widthdrawals. Even if they do the rate will still be better then pretty much any other way to convert money.


Eastbay1K Jun 2, 2002 7:18 pm

Your ATM is the best rate. My rate is consistently about one cent more than the interbank rate.

Jilz Jun 2, 2002 7:31 pm

ATM definitely. Especially if your U.S. bank has a branch there - I know there's a Citibank branch - there may be others.

tom911 Jun 3, 2002 12:51 am

Just make sure you have a second ATM card or credit card along in case your primary card doesn't work. I had this happen once in England, and was glad I had an alternative card to draw money on.

slawecki Jun 3, 2002 7:17 am

ATM's with an ATM card, not a credit card.

The host bank may charge a fee, but it is usually small.

Some ATM machines add a fee that is not small. Had a $10 fee added in FLR.

The amount one can withdraw from a given ATM machine on a given transaction can be small. $100 or $200US equivalent.

The total amount of withdrawal on a given day is not large. Usually about $500US.

FTraveler Jun 3, 2002 1:23 pm

Agree with the rest - ATMs. In France and Japan, the ATMs I have accessed had optional english language instructions. As with ATM use in the U.S., use appropriate caution - be aware of your surroundings and person(s) lurking nearby.

Efrem Jun 3, 2002 3:32 pm

I always use ATMs. Note that European ATMs generally do not accept PINs over 4 digits long. If yours is longer (some US banks let you have as many as 8) you'll have to switch to a 4-digit PIN before you leave.

GUWonder Jun 3, 2002 7:31 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by FTraveler:
Agree with the rest - ATMs. In France and Japan, the ATMs I have accessed had optional english language instructions. As with ATM use in the U.S., use appropriate caution - be aware of your surroundings and person(s) lurking nearby.</font>
FYI: Most Japanese banks don't accept US ATM cards. You have to find one enabled for US ATM Cards.

j379pa Jun 3, 2002 11:48 pm

I've used ATM's overseas many times with good results, even in Croatia & Slovenia. One caveat: some countries do not place letters along with the numbers on the buttons. So, if you've memorized your PIN as a four letter word (say, JEFF, HOPS, or CASH), you need to also memorize the four numbers.

JP

FTraveler Jun 4, 2002 12:22 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by GUWonder:
FYI: Most Japanese banks don't accept US ATM cards. You have to find one enabled for US ATM Cards.</font>
My ATM card has the Star and Plus logo. Worked fine for me in Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto, Fukuoka and Kumamoto. Must be lucky.

TransWorldOne Jun 4, 2002 4:22 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by j379pa:
...One caveat: some countries do not place letters along with the numbers on the buttons...</font>

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Efrem:
...Note that European ATMs generally do not accept PINs over 4 digits long. If yours is longer (some US banks let you have as many as 8) you'll have to switch to a 4-digit PIN before you leave.</font>
So if you a have five-digit PIN where you use letters to remember it, like Bosco or JorEl, you're really in trouble? http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttravel_forum/wink.gif


cy-gone Jun 5, 2002 10:14 am

I would like to go against the grain a bit here and put my vote in for some good old travelers checks in U.S. dollar denominations.

If you need a small amount of cash ATM's can be very expensive. In Paris last summer I was charged a five dollar fee for using my ATM card by the machine that originated the transaction. If I could read french I would have been aware of the fee, but I do not. In addition my bank in the U.S. charges a five dollar foreign transaction fee. So it cost me more than ten dollars every time I used the ATM. I use my credit card for must large purchases and I do not like walking around with a lot of cash so I only get one hundred dollars at a time. The result is that ATM transactions cost me more than ten percent. Travelers checks are free from AAA and most banks. If you loose them you have some recource.

Another problem with ATM and a caution we should all be aware of is; never use an ATM card in an unattended machine. For some reason ATM machines sometimes have trouble processing foreign transactions and when this happens the machine keeps your card. This has already happened to me twice. The first time I spent an extra weekend in Penang, Malaysia waiting for the bank to open and return my card. The second time the bank was open and was able to return my card. The lesson I have learned is do not depend too much on your ATM, and it is not always the safest or cheapest!

Louie_LI Jun 6, 2002 4:37 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by cy-gone:
...In Paris last summer I was charged a five dollar fee for using my ATM card by the machine that originated the transaction.</font>
Just out of curiosity, do you remember the name of the French bank that charged that fee? I have a fair number of visitors here in Paris that go the ATM route, and I'd like to know which machines to tell them to avoid.

obscure2k Jun 11, 2002 5:56 pm

I normally buy a few hundred dollars in foreign currency prior to departure from a foreign currency exchange in my community. His exchange rates are very good and certainly much better than the airport exchanges. I, too have noticed that some foreign ATMs will charge a fee of a few dollars, plus my U.S. bank will charge a "currency conversion fee." If you do reside in West Los Angeles, the name of the currency exchange is: Bretton Woods, located at 11659 San Vicente Blvd. (Brentwood). The proprietor, Mr. Scott, is very pleasant to deal with and I have used his services for many years.


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