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Originally Posted by Kushiro
(Post 13018301)
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Likewise, since we wanted our children to have both US and Japanese citizenship, we had to register the birth with the Japanese consulate and fill out a form indicating that we wanted our child to retain Japanese citizenship despite also having US citizenship (under the current laws, the kids will have to choose one at age 20 or 21, although it appears that many people get away without doing so).......................... -Kush |
Originally Posted by MoreMilesPlease
(Post 13018343)
I don't believe US laws require anyone to "choose one citizenship over another" when they get a certain age.
Best, Kush |
Originally Posted by Kushiro
(Post 13018301)
Sorry, this is just plain wrong. I'm a US citizen married to a Japanese citizen and living in Switzerland. Both of our children were born in Switzerland, and at the time of birth had no nationality (the Swiss birth certificate clearly indicates "Nationality: unknown").
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
(Post 13019658)
Rules vary by country.
THE SAME AS SOMEONE BORN IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY CAN CLAIM CITIZENSHIP IN THAT COUNTRY. Apologies if this was misconstrued, Kush |
Originally Posted by tinkybelle
(Post 2590360)
I may probably get flamed for this but I need to pose the question.
In this day of the 21st century-WHY is anyone allowed to have 2 passports. 2 identities with which to cavort the world? I was asked to book a flight for someone this week. This person has just come back to me to ask to change the name on the ticket as they need a visa for the country to which they are travelling and dont have the time so they need to change the name on the ticket to suit the other passport which they possess. This is not on!!! if they need the visa -then they need the visa. so they slip through the net cause they have another identity????? I have one passport. If I need a visa I obtain one. if I dont get entry-I dont go. this should be the norm. Am I missing something here?????? I was born in Canada (making me Canadian by Canadian law) to American Parents (making me American by American law) and as my father was a holocaust survivor, Germany re-instated citizenship for all survivors and their families in the mid 90's, (making me German by German law) Although American law states you must give up other citizenships, they cannot enforce it, or even really check because they cannot dictate what other countries may grant you citizenship. It's also useful incase I need to get out for whatever reason! |
Originally Posted by pinworm
(Post 13020050)
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Although American law states you must give up other citizenships, they cannot enforce it, or even really check because they cannot dictate what other countries may grant you citizenship. ...... |
Originally Posted by MoreMilesPlease
(Post 13020372)
The US does not require anyone to give up any other citizenship to have US citizenship. This is an urban legend that keeps being said here.
I think people get confused because the US may require relinquishing citizenship upon naturalization (at least in certain circumstances), but that's a whole different ball of wax. |
Originally Posted by MoreMilesPlease
(Post 13020372)
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The US does not require anyone to give up any other citizenship to have US citizenship. This is an urban legend that keeps being said here. |
Originally Posted by YVR Cockroach
(Post 13020420)
I wouldn't call it an urban legend. It was something actively discouraged until the ban was struck down by some court - there is some reference for this. You will get U.S. citizens who became naturalised Canadians 30+ years ago who have been (wrongly) told by INS agents that they lost U.S. citizenship when they naturalised in Canada.
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Originally Posted by soitgoes
(Post 13020382)
Some urban legends never die. :(
I think people get confused because the US may require relinquishing citizenship upon naturalization (at least in certain circumstances), but that's a whole different ball of wax. The US does say that if you hold a passport other than the US then you are under that countries laws of citizenship when in that country. IE if you hold Israeli and US citizenship, go back to Israel and are made to perform national service, the US will do nothing to help you get out of the service since Israel has first claims on you while in that country. |
Originally Posted by soitgoes
(Post 13020382)
Some urban legends never die. :(
I think people get confused because the US may require relinquishing citizenship upon naturalization (at least in certain circumstances), but that's a whole different ball of wax. Re the OP: I do not understand what the big deal is. What does it matter to anyone else if people travel on more than one passport? IMHO there are all sorts of advantages and no disadvantages. For instance, visa fees can be lower depending on country of origin - why not pick the cheaper of the two? |
Originally Posted by MoreMilesPlease
(Post 13020925)
Being actively discouraged is a very different thing from being an actual law. It us an urban legend that keeps being reincarnated.
http://www.richw.org/dualcit/faq.html#noway' You can read that U.S.-born U.S. citizens have indeed been stripped off their U.S. citizenship in the past. There used to be a law stripping a U.S. citizen of U.S. citizenship if that citizen voted in a foreign election but that was overturned in Afroyim v. Rusk (1967) and subsequently repealed in 1978. |
a passport is not a proof of citizenship - just a travel document. So having multiple is not an issue of citizenship. Some countries will provide a passport (e.g. Switzerland) to (some) stateless persons living within their border w/o them gaining citizenship - just so they can travel.
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Originally Posted by erik123
(Post 13024695)
a passport is not a proof of citizenship - just a travel document. So having multiple is not an issue of citizenship. Some countries will provide a passport (e.g. Switzerland) to (some) stateless persons living within their border w/o them gaining citizenship - just so they can travel.
Most countries will only issue passports to citizens, and proof of citizenship (birth certificaate, naturalisation papers etc) is part of the required documentation when applying for a passport. |
Originally Posted by erik123
(Post 13024695)
a passport is not a proof of citizenship - just a travel document. So having multiple is not an issue of citizenship. Some countries will provide a passport (e.g. Switzerland) to (some) stateless persons living within their border w/o them gaining citizenship - just so they can travel.
My UK passport says: "British Citizen." My NZ passport says: "Nationality: New Zealand." You don't consider those as proof of citizenship? Perhaps you would prefer me to carry around my birth certificate, which says: "Place of birth: Khartoum, Sudan"? Or my NZ Naturalisation Certificate (which is twice the size of a sheet of foolscap paper). Place of birth does not always prove citizenship. I am not, and never have been, a citizen of the Sudan. I was born in the Sudan because my parents were part of the UK Diplomatic staff there, at that time (it's technically called "Crown Service") and my birth was registered on the European Register as being a British Citizen. |
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