Boeing Next-Generation 737-900
Apr 13, 2000, 8:23 am
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Boeing Next-Generation 737-900
Read the details: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/000413/wa_boeing__1.html
CO is using the -800 for transcons now. Another narrow-body plane with long-range capability...
CO is using the -800 for transcons now. Another narrow-body plane with long-range capability...
Apr 13, 2000, 9:56 am
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I hope the airline at least will have the sense to put three bathrooms on those planes. It is almost like a Boeing 757. At least the plane is wider than Boeing 757 and I hope AS can put some wider seats and satellite TV on those planes, if they plan to fly long-haul.
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Apr 13, 2000, 12:12 pm
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I have flown the CO flight from SEA to EWK non-stop on one of their new 737's. Transcon is a little long to be squeezed on one of these narrow-body planes. Not only is there less room but they are slower, much slower. But the trend seems to be towards using 737's for longer haul flights. Continuing the trend, Aloha airlnes just put two 737-800's into service between OAK and HNL in Feb.
Apr 13, 2000, 3:35 pm
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Carfield said:
It may be wider (I'm not so sure about that), but in CO's case I'd bet the seats will be no wider than the -800, which are 17.2".
CO did announce a month or so ago they were retro-fitting the -800's to add another lav. Must assume they wouldn't do that again!
rollyo11, much slower than what? Here's the info from CO's website.
MD-80 Cruise speed 505 Seat width 17"
737-8 Cruise speed 530 Seat Width 17.2"
757-2 Cruise speed 540 Seat width 17.2"
At least the plane is wider than Boeing 757
CO did announce a month or so ago they were retro-fitting the -800's to add another lav. Must assume they wouldn't do that again!
rollyo11, much slower than what? Here's the info from CO's website.
MD-80 Cruise speed 505 Seat width 17"
737-8 Cruise speed 530 Seat Width 17.2"
757-2 Cruise speed 540 Seat width 17.2"
Apr 13, 2000, 11:36 pm
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Shadow,
It is true that the rated top speeds for the 737, 757 and MD80 are about the same. But you might also note the amount of thrust for the 737-800 is only 60% that of the 757. With a strong headwind(east to west) the 737 just doesn't have any guts. Or possibly the uncomfortable CO seats just make it seem a lot longer. No need to split hairs though. :-)
I think we can all agree that a seat on a bigger plane is a more comfortable one (even if it is just phychological). Which makes the trip go by quicker.
-rollyo11
It is true that the rated top speeds for the 737, 757 and MD80 are about the same. But you might also note the amount of thrust for the 737-800 is only 60% that of the 757. With a strong headwind(east to west) the 737 just doesn't have any guts. Or possibly the uncomfortable CO seats just make it seem a lot longer. No need to split hairs though. :-)
I think we can all agree that a seat on a bigger plane is a more comfortable one (even if it is just phychological). Which makes the trip go by quicker.
-rollyo11
Apr 14, 2000, 11:48 am
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Although the thrust on the 737-900 is less than the 757-200 (27,000 lbs per eng. vs. 36,000 to 43,000 depending on eng) the 757 is about 45% heavier when fully loaded than the 737-900. The extra thrust is needed for the weight of the 757 and emergency single engine ops. The 10 extra knots at cruise is based on the total aerodynamics of 757.
All airlines seem to fly at the most economical cruise speed, not the best, and are often slowed down even more for traffic separation. Your odds of getting to your destination faster on a 757 or 737-900 will most likely be influenced more by air traffic, winds aloft, or weather than by choice of aircraft.
All airlines seem to fly at the most economical cruise speed, not the best, and are often slowed down even more for traffic separation. Your odds of getting to your destination faster on a 757 or 737-900 will most likely be influenced more by air traffic, winds aloft, or weather than by choice of aircraft.
Apr 15, 2000, 6:51 am
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I do belive the 737 and 757 fuselage is exactly the same width...
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Apr 19, 2001, 10:05 pm
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The reason older aircraft like the 727 and 747 can fly faster than newer models like the 757, 777 and 737NG is not a matter of thrust but rather of wing design. The 727 and 747-100/200/300 (less so the '400 because of the winglets) had/have cruise speeds of around 600-610 mph and sprint speeds in excess of 625 mph because of their highly swept wing design. Newer models like the 757 and 737NG have a flatter design that increases fuel efficiency and field performance (higher MTOW, shorter takeoff rolls, and less noise) but limit maximum cruise speeds.
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Apr 20, 2001, 9:18 am
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AA 757s have the high output Rolls Royce engines which are considered overpowered. I'd rather be stuck in a 757 transcon than in a 737. AA does this between JFK-BOS/LAX-SJC-SFO-SAN-SEA. The worst thing they do is run a 757 between SJC and HNL/OGG.
Apr 20, 2001, 10:39 am
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Originally posted by MileageAddict:
I do belive the 737 and 757 fuselage is exactly the same width...
I do belive the 737 and 757 fuselage is exactly the same width...
You are correct. Interior dimensions (width) on both 757 and 737-900 are 11 feet 7 inches.
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/737-900/product.html
