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BizJet Feb 25, 2001 6:35 pm

Pan Am Hubs
 
Can someone provide a list of (former) Pan Am hubs, as well as their major 'focus cities' (the REAL Pan Am; not the fake one(s) out of Portsmouth!).

I know of two:
--New York JFK
--Miami

And one focus city:
--Seattle (I believe they had a service to NRT and LON).

Thanks.

BizJet Feb 25, 2001 6:43 pm

I am also interested in Eastern hubs/focus cities. The ones I know:

Hubs
--Atlanta
--Miami

Focus Cities (mini-hubs)
--Boston
--Kansas City

Track Feb 25, 2001 6:46 pm

On a 1970 Pan Am route map I see hubs in New York, Frankfurt, Tokyo, Honolulu, Panama City and Miami. Back then airline hubs weren't as well organized as they are today, of course, but in 1970 Pan Am at least had flights in several directions from these cities and offered connections from several other places.

BizJet Feb 25, 2001 7:02 pm

Thanks, track. Of course, airline hubs traditionally become true hubs (connecting many people on many flights in distict banks) after deregulation, which IIRC was 1979. So I guess the hubs I'm looking for would be post 79.

mjm Feb 25, 2001 7:08 pm

I think San Francisco falls under the umbrella of former hubs. I used them a lot for SFO-London at that time.

Djlawman Feb 25, 2001 8:07 pm

I think, if my memory is correct, that National Airport DCA was a hub for Eastern.

Djlawman

curt Feb 26, 2001 2:47 am

LHR was a hub in the 70's and 80's. FRA definitely was one, too.

steve100 Feb 26, 2001 7:39 am

Have you tried the "PanAm" web site, this information may be there:
http://www.panam.org/default1.asp

(This site claims to be "To preserve the heritage of Pan American World Airways...
...the people who built her and those that tried so valiantly to keep her flying ")

BizJet Feb 26, 2001 1:14 pm

I did try that link first, steve100. It's an interesting site, but did not have the info I was looking for. Incidentally, much of the information seems to be the more "classic" Pam Am than the more "modern" one (classic as in the original seaplanes, etc.)

SFO_FT Feb 26, 2001 9:38 pm

Re: PA

In the mid to late 1980s, PA's "full" hubs were MIA, JFK, NRT, and FRA.

Earlier, SFO was considered a "hub" (more than a "focus" city, but less than a full hub).

In the 1980s, PA tried to build a "hub" at IAD.

AAPHLFlyer Feb 27, 2001 7:25 pm

PA definetly had a Hub at FRA, because I recall PA 103 originated as a 727 from FRA-LHR. PA also had numerous 732's flying into FRA. JFK & MIA were definetly two of the more sizable ones.

hfly Feb 28, 2001 5:38 pm

JFK, MIA, LAX, SFO, LHR, FRA, GIG, NRT.

Other interesting cities included: Panama City, Detroit, Seattle, Freetown.

greg Feb 28, 2001 6:02 pm

In the late 70s, Pan Am also operated a mini-hub in Guatemala City - a couple of 707s and one 747 inbound from MIA, JFK, IAD, and LAX proceeded on to SJO, SAL and other points in Central America. Connected through there a few times myself. Once I was on a 747 from SJO to GUA (was headed to MIA). We couldn't land at GUA (happened a lot during rainy season - kind of scary with all the volcanoes around GUA) - our 747 ended up landing in Merida to refuel. They then took all of us on to LAX (where the 747 was headed), put us up in a hotel (quite a party there at PA's expense!), and sent us on to MIA the next day. Pan Am - gone but not forgotten! Thanks for the memories!

phllax Feb 28, 2001 7:09 pm

Eastern had a big hub in Philly up to the first Chapter 11 following. They had all of the gates in Terminal C that eventually went to Midway and then US Airways.


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