How much FA flirting is appropriate?
 

On my flight yesterday, one FA spent an entire flight flirting with one passenger. This FA noticed the passenger immediately upon boarding, stared at and then approached the passenger, using the pick-up line: "you look so much like this person I know". 30 minutes after take off, the FA took a plastic bag and started collecting garbage from the front down. I thought this was awful early in a 2-hour flight, but I soon realized what was going on: The FA stared some more at the passenger, stopped at the seat and proceeded to be, let's say, very friendly- not that there is anything wrong with being friendly. The FA kneeled in the aisle, blocking anyone's moves up and down. People had to walk up to the FA to return their trash. This lasted a good 30 minutes, during which the protagonists' faces came very very close to one another.

After which the passenger was invited to sit down on the crew seats in the back with the FA who did no additional service until landing when the passenger returned up front. They both shared the crew seat until landing.

I thought it was inappropriate to show so much regard for one passenger and none for the others. After all, this is a job. Comments?

PS: I left gender conspicuously out of the equation.



[This message has been edited by Droneklax (edited 11-09-2000).]

Flirting to the extent that it effects only the two involved is fine. It is when as in this case it effects other pax, or in a worst case scenario effects the spouse or significant other that I have to draw the line. I like flirting, but I also like being treated to the service for which I have paid. Therefore, I typically will pick up a book or put my headphones back on when it has gone far enough. How far is that? Tough call. Guess I just do it on a case by case basis.

Hey Droneklax,

If you encountered this on UA, could the passenger be His Royal Highness Jim Goodwin himself? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Talk about some major a** kissing, if it was.

Jamester

Not good. And unprofessional if they were neglecting other passengers or service.

Where were the other flight attendants? Can't imagine being one of only 3 flight attendants on any full airplane these days with this sort of behavior going on.....

I remember flying a 3-day trip with a young new-hire who had the hots for pilots - any pilots! She would spend an inordinate amount of time in the cockpit conversing, looking for her future husband. I had to lay down the law after trying to tactfully bring to her attention that she was neglecting her duties.

The overwhelming, vast majority of aircrews these days are well beyond the old stereotype of hooking up with passengers/pilots....

I just re-read your post - are you saying this passenger occupied a flight attendant jumpseat for any duration of the flight?

Big infraction if this is the case...

Jamester http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif. It would have been this guy in this case.

basenji (You're off the hook, not your airline!)Yes indeed, we are talking about the FA jumpseat in the back of a 737.

[This message has been edited by Droneklax (edited 11-09-2000).]

The only time I was in a jumpseat is when I was getting oxygen...I'll admit, I have been the "affection" of a few flight attendants, including recently 2 on the way to TPE, one who once wanted my address to send me a few things from her hometown that she thought I'd like, and so on. And I doubt any of this activity was really at the expense of other passengers. But earlier this year on a Shuttle flight, the flight attendant spent her entire flight, save the time it took her to throw us drinks, at seat 1C. I seem to recall that she didn't do anything else for the flight. We were looking at her in amazement. One hour, one passenger. At least she didn't hop on his lap.

I once heard 2 FA talk about another FA who gave nude messages during her time off. They said that she denied having sexual contact with the customers, whatever that means.

Nude messages? Is that like phone sex? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Or is that nude massage?

This never happens to me http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif

eMailman,

I guess that's why you need to become an elite! Nude massages for top tier flyers - sounds like a new perk for Richard Branson to introduce...

Nude message? Would that be a bare fax?

**** if I'd bring trash to the F/A, I'd just ring the the F/A call button.

And I think a letter to the airline would be in order.

If I was being ignored by the F/A as you describe, I'd probably go up to him/her and say something like "excuse me, I'm going to be writing the president of this airline a nice letter telling him how much I enjoyed being ignored by the F/A's on this fight, I'll need the spelling of your name."

My experiences on AA with a flirting FA.
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Where was the lead FA during this time ?

arturo wan two kno abut thes ooooh-la-la FA. whear kan arturo fine won of thes fa's. awl arturo evr sea es fa's he knot wan two flert wiff hem, boff mail an femail.

arturo wesh wengliss or punki flert wiff hem. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

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Reading Boomers post about "a letter being in order" brought something to mind.

Keep in mind that this took place while still at the gate, door closed, waiting out a weather delay. On a flight from ATL last week there was an FA deadheading to CVG. He was wearing the uniform vest without any identifiers but still walking around like he owned the place. I myself thought he was working until I heard another pass. make a request and he said, "Okay, but I'm not working."

I don't know if that response had anything to do with it but the Captain came back, said that he wanted to talk to him, went out the back hatch, and told him that he'd received three complaints about his attitude in the short time we'd been there. Without my going into detail(we in the back heard every word) I'll say that he then, very professionally, proceeded to rip him a new one. I got the impression, from his response, that the FA was in fear for his job.

While I don't suggest that you make a complaint about just anything, if you really, really feel the need, tell the offending FA that you'd like to speak to the lead FA and ask him/her to inform the Captain that you'd like to speak to him when you land.

As far as an FA flirting, well, I had a very similar incident happen to me from LAS-BDL on CO. It was a red eye and most everyone was asleep except the guy in front of me. He was being kept awake by the FA who was, as conceited as it sounds, relentless in her pursuit. If I wasn't involved at the time, I would have had a layover in Houston. I digress. I really think he was more jealous than anything else. Had our roles been switched, I know I would have been. She was something.
If someone has a chance at finding love at 30,000ft I'll forego my bag of snack mix to see it happen. I guess I'm just sentimental.

arturo, your punctuation-checker is broken ... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

wat punkuashun cheker's? wat does' et luuks' lik? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

how 'bout essxjay's?

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[This message has been edited by arturo (edited 11-14-2000).]

Omni: I had drinks with two UA pilots, 2 AA pilots, and 4 AA FA's last night. Wow that married AA pilot sure did get frisky with the 23 year old FA right there in the bar.

Sorry to ask but.,,

is Aurto's message a coded English or non-English? Seems I can't understand that.

Thanks!

IMHO there should be a separation between your job and any personal activities.

TO single out one passenger for attention over others is bad work behavior. IT's like working in an office where some employees can get away with everything while another is singled out for criticism. (trust me it happens on my job.)


F-A's can be friendly. I have had F-A's who stop and chat with me on everything from my travels to my cats to Jimmy Buffett. But I am always careful to stop the conversation if I sense another passenger is getting annoyed (I have good cat sense about people's emotions, most of the time.)

If one of my familar angels is on a flight I'll wait till after meal/drink service and go to the galley to chat.

I don't want an F-A to get into trouble.

arturo hoked on fonics.

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