Bolt and latch my door. "Oh no- now I'm dead!" ... what happens now?
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For me at 16 years old (talking ancient history here), it was being at a job site (building houses in rural Arkansas with my father) in the middle of nowhere and locking the key in the truck. Fortunately, my father had worked as an auto mechanic and knew how the lock was structured inside the door. With him explaining what to feel for and me doing the fishing, took about 15 minutes to get it open. Next time went a lot faster, but that time it wasn't MY fault the keys got locked in the car.
Also figured out how to pick house locks and dead bolts because when you show up to finish the cabinets at a house 30 miles from the nearest human and the plumber locked the door before leaving, taking the key with him, it's a lot easier to learn how to pick the lock than it is to spend half a day of uncompensated hours finding the key.
Haven't had much calling for those talents in a long time and probably couldn't replicate the actions required.
Also figured out how to pick house locks and dead bolts because when you show up to finish the cabinets at a house 30 miles from the nearest human and the plumber locked the door before leaving, taking the key with him, it's a lot easier to learn how to pick the lock than it is to spend half a day of uncompensated hours finding the key.
Haven't had much calling for those talents in a long time and probably couldn't replicate the actions required.
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For me at 16 years old (talking ancient history here), it was being at a job site (building houses in rural Arkansas with my father) in the middle of nowhere and locking the key in the truck. Fortunately, my father had worked as an auto mechanic and knew how the lock was structured inside the door. With him explaining what to feel for and me doing the fishing, took about 15 minutes to get it open. Next time went a lot faster, but that time it wasn't MY fault the keys got locked in the car.
Also figured out how to pick house locks and dead bolts because when you show up to finish the cabinets at a house 30 miles from the nearest human and the plumber locked the door before leaving, taking the key with him, it's a lot easier to learn how to pick the lock than it is to spend half a day of uncompensated hours finding the key.
Haven't had much calling for those talents in a long time and probably couldn't replicate the actions required.
Also figured out how to pick house locks and dead bolts because when you show up to finish the cabinets at a house 30 miles from the nearest human and the plumber locked the door before leaving, taking the key with him, it's a lot easier to learn how to pick the lock than it is to spend half a day of uncompensated hours finding the key.
Haven't had much calling for those talents in a long time and probably couldn't replicate the actions required.
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For decades I carried spare house & car keys in my wallet. As the latter have grown more bulky, I keep them in my pocket.
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Also figured out how to pick house locks and dead bolts because when you show up to finish the cabinets at a house 30 miles from the nearest human and the plumber locked the door before leaving, taking the key with him, it's a lot easier to learn how to pick the lock than it is to spend half a day of uncompensated hours finding the key.
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Lock-picking tool available ha been tightened up (guess it depends on jurisdiction). Have to be licensed to possess them and in some places, possession of a slim jim can be considered intent to commit a crime.
Getting new front doors installed tomorrow and the hardware is German. May not make a difference as it's almost all glass.
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I was at a Hilton property (Hampton Inn), last year, and some random guy opened my door and I had the deadbolt on and that safety guard. The safety guard was the only thing that immediately stopped him from entering my room. But, if he really wanted in he could have easily bypassed that stupid lock. Hilton gave me 30,000 points for dealing with the situation. But, contrary to what we all may believe, those deadbolt locks are useless if you use a key card to open the door. I put the deadbolt on and just used the key card and the door opened, so any housekeeper or staff can still enter with a key card. Might not happen on all doors but did at this hotel. I carry two door stops and a door alarm when I'm traveling, and usually on use them in really seedy hotels while I'm sleeping, but this incident happened two hours before I was checking out They had no idea who the guy was or why he had key card access. The only thing I saw in his hand was a cellphone that the screen was illuminated,and may have been using some kind of app He tried opening the door twice and I had to put all my body weight on it to keep it closed. Then he just left. That was the weirdest thing. So, I definitely don't trust any of those electronic locking doors
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I was at a Hilton property (Hampton Inn), last year, and some random guy opened my door and I had the deadbolt on and that safety guard. The safety guard was the only thing that immediately stopped him from entering my room. But, if he really wanted in he could have easily bypassed that stupid lock. Hilton gave me 30,000 points for dealing with the situation. But, contrary to what we all may believe, those deadbolt locks are useless if you use a key card to open the door. I put the deadbolt on and just used the key card and the door opened, so any housekeeper or staff can still enter with a key card. Might not happen on all doors but did at this hotel. I carry two door stops and a door alarm when I'm traveling, and usually on use them in really seedy hotels while I'm sleeping, but this incident happened two hours before I was checking out They had no idea who the guy was or why he had key card access. The only thing I saw in his hand was a cellphone that the screen was illuminated,and may have been using some kind of app He tried opening the door twice and I had to put all my body weight on it to keep it closed. Then he just left. That was the weirdest thing. So, I definitely don't trust any of those electronic locking doors
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In the days before electronic locking systems on automobiles, a similar locking mechanism was used in cars. A good car thief could use a "shim" and get a car unlocked in seconds. When I was just entering college, my brother-in-law helped a fellow dormmate get into a car that he had locked himself out of by doing almost exactly this but with a coat hanger. My sister had been married to my BIL for about five years at that point and I knew him as an upstanding guy, but I must admit that, in those pre-YouTube days, I began to wonder about how he knew how to do what he did and what his life was like before he met my sister!
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If you're really, really paranoid about someone getting in your hotel room while you're sleeping, you can invest in a robust doorstop and wedge it into the door before you pad off to bed.
Meanwhile, most newer hotels have abandoned the night latch in favor of this:
These can be defeated too. Which means your best defense is to ENGAGE THE DEADBOLT.
Meanwhile, most newer hotels have abandoned the night latch in favor of this:
These can be defeated too. Which means your best defense is to ENGAGE THE DEADBOLT.
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If you're really, really paranoid about someone getting in your hotel room while you're sleeping, you can invest in a robust doorstop and wedge it into the door before you pad off to bed.
Meanwhile, most newer hotels have abandoned the night latch in favor of this:
These can be defeated too. Which means your best defense is to ENGAGE THE DEADBOLT.
Meanwhile, most newer hotels have abandoned the night latch in favor of this:
These can be defeated too. Which means your best defense is to ENGAGE THE DEADBOLT.
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I was at a Hilton property (Hampton Inn), last year, and some random guy opened my door and I had the deadbolt on and that safety guard. The safety guard was the only thing that immediately stopped him from entering my room. But, if he really wanted in he could have easily bypassed that stupid lock. Hilton gave me 30,000 points for dealing with the situation. But, contrary to what we all may believe, those deadbolt locks are useless if you use a key card to open the door. I put the deadbolt on and just used the key card and the door opened, so any housekeeper or staff can still enter with a key card. Might not happen on all doors but did at this hotel. I carry two door stops and a door alarm when I'm traveling, and usually on use them in really seedy hotels while I'm sleeping, but this incident happened two hours before I was checking out They had no idea who the guy was or why he had key card access. The only thing I saw in his hand was a cellphone that the screen was illuminated,and may have been using some kind of app He tried opening the door twice and I had to put all my body weight on it to keep it closed. Then he just left. That was the weirdest thing. So, I definitely don't trust any of those electronic locking doors
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I can attest that not all deadbolts actually work if somebody has a key card or app to open your door. Next time you're at a hotel with somebody have them put the deadbolt on and you use the key card to open it. The key card disengages the deadbolt too. Maybe not all hotels, but I would definitely test it before going to sleep.
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So every road warrior will need a cordless drill driver, 2x4 (about 32"?), a pair of brackets and the hardware.....