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Old Jun 18, 20, 10:26 am
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Originally Posted by southlondonphil View Post
Modern keycards are mostly RFID based these days so won't be wiped by 'magnetic' devices.

As long as you don't carry your keycard around in an active microwave oven you're fine!
If a CELLPHONE has the same functionality as a keycard, is the keycard (at Bellagio) RFID?
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Old Jun 18, 20, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by nrr View Post
If a CELLPHONE has the same functionality as a keycard, is the keycard (at Bellagio) RFID?
I don't know the Bellagio but I would assume the keycards are RFID-based rather than still reliant on the much older mag-stripe technology.

Not every Android smartphone has an NFC (Near Field Communication) chip which uses the RFID communication protocols, so the 'virtual keycard' functionality in hotel Apps tends to be based around Bluetooth instead so that there aren't issues with having "the wrong phone".

iPhones all have NFC chips (since the iPhone 6) so it's possible that the iOs versions of the App use the NFC functionality to rather than Bluetooth but I'm not an expert
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Old Jun 18, 20, 12:09 pm
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I consider that akin to your car running out of gas. Sure, it can happen, but every time you've looked at the gauge today you've been kept updated on what your battery life is. It should not come as a surprise that your phone is suddenly dead, just like you won't be driving down a highway and your car is just suddenly on empty.
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Old Jun 19, 20, 7:12 pm
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Originally Posted by RichardNixon View Post
I consider that akin to your car running out of gas. Sure, it can happen, but every time you've looked at the gauge today you've been kept updated on what your battery life is. It should not come as a surprise that your phone is suddenly dead, just like you won't be driving down a highway and your car is just suddenly on empty.
My OP post is related to a CASINO, actually slot machines have USB ports--but hanging around 30 minutes to top up a drained CP is a drag.
As noted up-thread your room key (or CP) is needed in two spots: (1)activate floor console in elevator and (2)get into room.
Not a statistically valid sample--NO ONE using the elevator in the car I was in used a CP to access their floor, in 4 days of "slotting".
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Old Jun 19, 20, 8:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Scots_Al View Post
And if it happens, surely you just then go to the reception desk and get a normal key? Really donít understand what the issue is.
I agree. The OP keeps talking about avoiding the front desk but complains about a flat phone. If your phone goes flat you approach reception and get a key, same as if you lost your key. Contact will be unavoidable in either of these situations. Alternately, if you're down to 3% charge turn your phone off in the knowledge you want to reenter your room without having to speak to any staff.
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Old Jun 22, 20, 1:54 pm
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I Haven't used a physical key in years and always use Hilton digital keys when staying at a Hilton brand. I never thought about my phone losing power though. Sounds like there may be a bigger issue at hand.
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Old Jun 22, 20, 2:59 pm
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Originally Posted by enviroian View Post
I Haven't used a physical key in years and always use Hilton digital keys when staying at a Hilton brand. I never thought about my phone losing power though. Sounds like there may be a bigger issue at hand.
I don't have enough confidence in the system to ditch the regular key quite yet. Maybe I will have more experience with the system.

Not really worried about the phone going dead because I'd know the phone was dead when I arrived back at the hotel and would just stop by the front desk to pickup a key. Very minimal inconvenience.
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Old Jun 23, 20, 11:17 am
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I don't have enough confidence in the system to ditch the regular key quite yet. Maybe I will have more experience with the system.

Not really worried about the phone going dead because I'd know the phone was dead when I arrived back at the hotel and would just stop by the front desk to pickup a key. Very minimal inconvenience.
Some places you can only use your digital key. Take the Hampton Inn in Renton WA. You need it to access the garage to park.
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Old Jun 27, 20, 7:24 am
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Originally Posted by enviroian View Post
I Haven't used a physical key in years and always use Hilton digital keys when staying at a Hilton brand.
I have zero confidence in Hilton IT / data security and would never use the phone-key feature for this reason. My phone contains private information.
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Old Jun 30, 20, 1:17 pm
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I am not worried about my battery dying, I'm too OCD for that type of thing, but the technology just isn't quite there yet. I have not had a time that I've had a door key on my phone that it has worked every time. I always end up needing a physical card at least once. So, it's a nice thought, but I would still want the card.

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Old Jun 30, 20, 6:48 pm
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This may be your solution: I Used My RFID Implant In My Hand As A Room Key, Hotel Staff Proceeded To Freak Out.
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Old Jul 3, 20, 5:32 am
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Originally Posted by theFallen View Post
I agree. The OP keeps talking about avoiding the front desk but complains about a flat phone. If your phone goes flat you approach reception and get a key, same as if you lost your key. Contact will be unavoidable in either of these situations. Alternately, if you're down to 3% charge turn your phone off in the knowledge you want to reenter your room without having to speak to any staff.
The biggest issue I had this week is now that you have to wear a face mask in all public areas, my iphone cannot use face authentication and I have to type the password before getting to the door, which can be difficult if your hands are full. I have also found at some properties it can take some time for the app to realise you are standing next to your door and you are standing there waiting for the button to appear to unlock the door.
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Old Jul 5, 20, 8:30 am
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I've only used the Hilton phone key system and it's been hit or miss for me. I had a one night stopover last month and was just going to use the key on phone, until it took three minutes for my phone to open the outer building door. I went ahead and got a regular key card in from the front desk for that stay. Other places it's worked perfectly. Eventually it will get better and easier to use.
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