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paperwastage May 12, 2020 6:26 pm

just a note here, DOT issued a second enforcement notice

https://www.transportation.gov/sites...%202020%29.pdf

a few points

good luck arguing what a "proper" refund means

3. What rights do passengers have if they purchased their airline ticket from an online travel
agency?
Ticket agents are required to make “proper” refunds when service cannot be performed as contracted on
a flight to, within, or from the United States.6

The Department interprets the requirement for ticket agents to provide “proper” refunds to include providing refunds in any instance when the following
conditions are met: (i) an airline cancels or significantly changes a flight, (ii) an airline acknowledges
that a consumer is entitled to a refund, and (iii) passenger funds are possessed by a ticket agent. In
enforcing the requirement for ticket agents to make “proper” refunds, the Aviation Enforcement Office
will focus on the totality of the circumstances.
and no 7-day-refund-rule for OTAs

6. How quickly must airlines and ticket agents process refunds?
Airlines and ticket agents are required to make refunds promptly. For airlines, prompt is defined as
being within 7 business days if a passenger paid by credit card, and within 20 days if a passenger paid
by cash or check.9
For ticket agents, prompt is not defined.10


The Aviation Enforcement Office
recognizes that, given the significant volume of refund requests resulting from the COVID-19 public
health emergency, processing refunds may take longer than normal and will determine the timeliness of
refund processing for ticket agents based on the totality of the circumstances, such as the volume of
incoming refund requests and steps taken to address the increased volume. Also, the Aviation
Enforcement Office will use its enforcement discretion and not take action against airlines for not
processing refunds within the required timeframes if, under the totality of the circumstances, they are
making good faith efforts to provide refunds in a timely manner.

Often1 May 13, 2020 2:14 pm


Originally Posted by paperwastage (Post 32370197)
just a note here, DOT issued a second enforcement notice

https://www.transportation.gov/sites...%202020%29.pdf

a few points

good luck arguing what a "proper" refund means


and no 7-day-refund-rule for OTAs

The sole purpose of a DOT complaint is to file one in conjunction with a chargeback and to thus speed one's refund. If DOT happened to bring an enforcement action against a carrier at some point, that won't affect your particular ticket.

The value of the DOT complaint, as most who use it have found, is that it is forwarded to the carrier with the requirement that the carrier respond to the passenger with a copy to DOT. That generates the refund.

paperwastage May 13, 2020 6:46 pm


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 32372590)
The sole purpose of a DOT complaint is to file one in conjunction with a chargeback and to thus speed one's refund. If DOT happened to bring an enforcement action against a carrier at some point, that won't affect your particular ticket.

The value of the DOT complaint, as most who use it have found, is that it is forwarded to the carrier with the requirement that the carrier respond to the passenger with a copy to DOT. That generates the refund.

i thought the current thread was discussing whether it's valid for an OTA to take a service charge out of a refund

the OTA was willing to provide refund minus service fees, if [MENTION=167430]k374[/MENTION] agrees.
not sure when k374 agreed (and if its delayed, then sure, file chargeback/DOT enforcement action)

i'm pointing out that the DOT enforcement notice clearly highlights that OTAs are not subject to 7-day-credit-card-refunds rule

also, DOT did not say "FULL" refund. they say "proper" refund. if they wanted to say full refund, they should have said it. is it proper to take out service fees? you can argue that on the DOT complaint

k374 May 14, 2020 10:20 pm

I have a situation where the OTA is charging a service fee and the airline is refunding the full amount. I believe the OTA is NOT entitled to the fee. The OTA is charging me a 15% fee.

However, I am in the process of just not dealing with the whole thing if I get 85% of the ticket back. Although I vehemently disagree with this it just may not be worth my time to pursue it. In addition, I have been traveling for 25+ years and have taken hundreds of flights with many many different OTAs, never had a single issue until now... and now is a once in a generation problem of historic proportions so I guess, whatever! Best to move on.


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