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Old Dec 17, 19, 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by Bluehen1 View Post
All depends on your definition of biggest...

Shanghai is largest by route length
Beijing is largest by ridership
NYC is largest by number of stations
How's it even possible someone could know this off handedly?!
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Old Dec 17, 19, 12:07 pm
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It is in the introduction section of the Metro system article of Wikipedia
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Old Dec 17, 19, 12:11 pm
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Originally Posted by fransknorge View Post
It is in the introduction section of the Metro system article of Wikipedia
Oh. I'm having one of those FT days where everything I ask or post really makes me look completely incompetent. *sigh*
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Old Dec 17, 19, 12:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Visconti View Post
Oh. I'm having one of those FT days where everything I ask or post really makes me look completely incompetent. *sigh*
Hey, I appreciate that you thought I knew it off the top of my head...
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Old Dec 17, 19, 2:51 pm
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Wasnt surprised about Vienna's omission from the responses (with only a few passing mentions). It's the best but also most underrated system in the world:

1. Extremely good value. Basically 1$/day for annual pass covering all modes of transport in main zone (which is basically all the residents)

2. Frictionless use - no barriers or turnstiles anywhere. A huge consideration IMO

3. Very high general standards (modern, clean, etc) for the stations and the equipment. With a few (clean!!) historic trams mixed in

4. Some station with good historic and artistic value

5. High punctuality, coverage, and capacity - rarely a sardine situation, and definitely nothing like the London/NY/Paris rushhour situation

6. Virtually no beggars or buskers, despite #2

7. Also extremely safe - no risk of theft like the Barcelona of the world

8. Easy access to airport. Additional $2 on top of standard fare

I could go on and on but for me it's a runaway victor
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Old Dec 17, 19, 3:08 pm
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Originally Posted by deniah View Post
Wasnt surprised about Vienna's omission from the responses (with only a few passing mentions). It's the best but also most underrated system in the world:
I have used that transport many times, even though I think it is mostly above ground, no? At least most of my stations were above ground. It is nice and easy, but not so large and not without controversy. https://qz.com/1684752/viennas-subwa...apy-on-trains/

But I think you are mainly noticing how obedient and relaxed the city and population of Vienna is.
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Old Dec 17, 19, 4:31 pm
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Originally Posted by stimpy View Post
I have used that transport many times, even though I think it is mostly above ground, no? At least most of my stations were above ground. It is nice and easy, but not so large and not without controversy. https://qz.com/1684752/viennas-subwa...apy-on-trains/

But I think you are mainly noticing how obedient and relaxed the city and population of Vienna is.
Don't know the actual total mix, but most of the old town sections are underground, suburbs are above street level, and the (green) line running along the canal and creek is neither!!

I really detest the full height turnstiles in NY that feels like prison, or the barriers elsewhere with finnicky ticket readers that causes a traffic jam
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Old Dec 17, 19, 6:30 pm
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I have only personally travelled on about 30-40 major subway systems so I might not have the greatest experience but I find it staggering that a city like London does so well on many counts (signage, maps, payment methods) but completely fails compared to other cities on others (e.g. air conditioned carriages and evaporative platform cooling compared to Buenos Aires, only just introducing night tube in the fricking 21st century, etc.)
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Old Dec 17, 19, 6:31 pm
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Originally Posted by moondog View Post
AFIK, Georgetown was excluded because the local residents didn't want subway service.
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Old Dec 17, 19, 9:56 pm
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Favoriate: HONG KONG by far! To me, nothing comes close (mind you, there's a lot of subway systems I'm not familiar with and I've yet to have been to China or Russia). Routes/coverage are perfect, stroller-friendly, clean. Transfers are always very short and easy (note that HK station and Central are 2 different stations!). Octopus is very easy to handle. Admiralty gets crazy during rush hours, but it's surprisingly manageable because trains come every minute and commuters are way more laidback and yielding than in Tokyo, for example.

Worst: Bart. So expensive. Confusing (my experience below)
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29638863-post38.html

Honorable mention: Although I don't like Boston's subways (I don't like subways in general), I'd like to express my appreciation for Boston's D-line. I love that it's an above-ground trolley that zips through the woods without being stopped by traffic lights, love the neighborhoods it runs through, its mature and diverse ridership.
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Old Dec 18, 19, 3:51 am
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Old Dec 18, 19, 4:54 am
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Originally Posted by sambagrrl07 View Post
No love for Taipei's MRT and HST? I love the neighborhood maps at every station, the polite passengers, contactless payment, WiFi everywhere, and aircon malls attached to (nearly?) every station, a real boon in the tropical weather.
I have never been to Taipei but Iím going to now ! You said all of the magic words. Iím here for the weather of course and the setting.
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Old Dec 18, 19, 9:12 am
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Originally Posted by pinniped View Post
Favorites in the current era:

Systems I admired for their precision: Moscow and Washington. I loved the Moscow stations and the fact that they ran on-time to the second. (Not sure if this is still true - my visits there were in the 90s.) Washington Metro was the pride of US systems for a long time but I understand it's fallen into disrepair in recent years. Since the advent of Uber/Lyft, I haven't used this system much on my trips to DC.
It's true about Moscow.
Now the metro is much bigger.
There are some modern style stations.
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Old Dec 18, 19, 9:25 am
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And let's remember, the Moscow Metro is probably the only sure way to get from point A to point B. On the surface you'll get stuck in traffic that competes with the worst of them. No wonder that most addresses also include the nearest Metro station as well. I haven't been there in a while, so I'm not sure if they still have the 60's-70's style carriages - those are just too old.
So while I wouldn't vote for the Moscow metro as the best in the world, but surely Moscow would just grind to a total halt without it.
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Now there are more modern trains in Moscow Metro with air conditioning and the phone chargers.

However some of them still from 80's-90's.
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Old Dec 18, 19, 9:38 am
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Originally Posted by deniah View Post
I really detest the full height turnstiles in NY that feels like prison, or the barriers elsewhere with finnicky ticket readers that causes a traffic jam
I guess the reason is the bigger the city the more people who will try to ride for free. Paris is a big city too, but the turnstiles can be easily bypassed by agile cheaters. The authorities in Paris seem to regard it as a socialistic measure to not block people who exert the effort required to jump over the turnstiles. It is the same in Marseille.
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